>At this point I fear that the X toolkit issues may have to be marked down >for a "fix this later". i agree, for now. i'm also asking on a few other lists to see where the most significant toolkits are with respect to these issues now. >Question to Tim/Paul: how is stuff like image processing plugins, browser >plugins (java applets embedded in web pages? flash? acrobat reader >plugin?) supported on X? That would seem to run up against the same >problem as GMPI seems to face. the image processing plugins that i know of (say, for GIMP) don't have GUIs: they are just code, they use a defined API to modify the data, and the host redisplays the data. But note: plugins for the GIMP are just that; nobody expects them to work with any other "host" program. Audio plugin users have different expectations, so our plugins can't pull off host-specific designs and expect to be popular. In fact, has anybody heard of any image processing plugin API for any platform that is cross-host? however, your point about java/flash/acrobat is an excellent one. i know that these days acrobat on *nix is generally handled by forking it as a separate process rather than being embedded, but this hasn't always been true and the java/flash cases are totally on point. i'll do some research into what happens there and let the list know. --p ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Generalized Music Plugin Interface (GMPI) public discussion list Participation in this list is contingent upon your abiding by the following rules: Please stay on topic. You are responsible for your own words. Please respect your fellow subscribers. Please do not redistribute anyone else's words without their permission. Archive: //www.freelists.org/archives/gmpi Email gmpi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx w/ subject "unsubscribe" to unsubscribe