Re: [foxboro] Upgrading Foxboro AW from P91, (Dell 2800), to P91,(Dell 2900), 2003 Server

  • From: "tjvandew@xxxxxxxxx" <tjvandew@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, tvandewater.contractor@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:07:40 -1000

Russ,
    Thanks for all of the hints.  As luck would have it we have a 
separate, identical, new P91 to reference and that has been helpful for 
comparison purposes.  We also did an image backup of the new box prior 
to any activity and we have been able to quickly and easily restore to 
that condition using True Image.  We have already done a Day0 -> Backup, 
a Day 1 and application load -> Backup, and have been able to quickly 
restore those images and reboot to get back to a those conditions.
    I didn't realize that the Fiber NIC's were different between the 
2800 and 2900's but we weren't going to try to swap them out anyway.  
They were recognized as Broadcom NIC's when the box came back with plug 
and play detection but I grabbed the driver setup files located in 
\Drivers\Allied Telesys?? directory from the other new P91.  The 2800 
box we are trying to clone is only a host for our training CP's right 
now so an initialize and reboot of them won't be an issue.  We want to 
make this cloned box a temporary Ver.8.4.2 host for 5 FCP's that we need 
to upgrade to talk to migration and 200 series FBM's.
    The registry might be an issue.  I will find out today.
Tom
 
Boulay, Russ wrote:
> Tom,
>  
>
> A few things of note:
>
>  
>
> Was the registry part of this backup?
>
> Many applications when loaded also get entries put into the registry.
>
> If registry was part of the restore, then there are tons of hardware
> related entries that were based on the 2800.
>
>  
>
> The nic cards in the 2800 are model AT 2701 PCI.. where the 2800 have AT
> 2711 pcie so can't move them anyway.
>
> After your restore of c: and d: those drivers may be gone.
>
>  
>
> If you perform a day1 on the machine you won't get prompted for nic
> selection.
>
> If you perform a day0 on an already installed machine you will get
> prompted for Nic selection/binding, but the selection does not remove
> existing entries ..it will append. Also day0 on already committed
> machine, will zero out checkpoint files and other I/A related files as
> the install believes it is committing for the first time. So I would not
> do either day0 or day1. 
>
>  
>
> I would try running the
> utility...d:/usr/fox/system32/fox_drivers/winxp/free/xp_netcfg.exe
>
> Syntax:    xp_netcfg.exe -i 151.128.152.(your IP)
>
> This will bring up the NIC selection interface to bind I/A. (this is
> what runs during day0 install to select Nics)
>
> This will append entries, so if you ran it 7 times you would have 14
> NICs listed.
>
> This will be your only shot at getting the NICs and Miniport to bind..
> (with luck)
>
> After reboot..if box connects to Mesh and talks I/A then you survived
> the binding.
>
>  
>
> Also newer 2900's require a script be run to install a new redl manager
> or the Nics won't work correctly. 
>
> That resided on C: partition and that willt be gone if you have restored
> c:
>
>  
>
> anyway there are several other gotchas..
>
>  
>
> ________________________________
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> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of tjvandew@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thu 2/12/2009 2:00 AM
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] Upgrading Foxboro AW from P91, (Dell 2800), to
> P91,(Dell 2900), 2003 Server
>
> Ron,
>     I thought you would be the first to reply to my post to the list.  I
> am not claiming victory yet but we were able to do a backup of the
> C:(Windows), and D: (IA), partitions on a Dell 2800 P91 with a single
> hard drive that was running Bios 1.5.0 and have restored it to a new 
> Dell 2900 P91 with a Raid 1 with dual hard drives running Bios 2.5.0 or
> something like that.  We used a trial download version of Symantec
> Backup and Restore Ver.8.5.  Rather than backing up the whole hard drive
> in one combined image we backed up the C: and D: partitions separately
> and restored them separately to allow us to utilize different restore
> options that come with Symantec Ver.8.5 restore for each partition.  We
> backed up to a USB hard drive on the 2800 and then connected that USB
> drive to the new 2900 for the restore.
>     The new Symantec restore boot CD has a "Restore Anywhere" feature
> that can be invoked during the restore setup and is supposed to be
> designed to load without transferring all of the machine hardware
> specific files/drivers.  On initial boot we let it try to boot all the
> way up but it hung during the boot and finally bailed and rebooted
> before it completed to boot up.  We decided to boot in the Safe Mode
> without networking and we were able to get it to re-establish all of the
> plug and play drivers.  Next we booted into the Safe Mode with
> Networking and took care of the network adapters.  It shows a mini port
> driver error and didn't correctly identify the Fiber NIC's as Allied
> Telesyns but it was happy enough to reboot with no complaints except the
> mini port.
>     Tomorrow I plan to delete the Fiber NIC's and then re-install the
> drivers for the Allied Telesysn's.  I will also delete the mini port and
> then do a Day 0/1 on the box to see if it correctly binds.  All of the
> applications and data files from the old 2800 are now on the C: and D:
> partitions of the new 2900, so if this works and the fiber NIC's and
> Mini port correctly re-install I think we have a shot at getting this
> done without doing all of the specific application reloads and database
> saves that you struggled through.  We decided not to pull the fiber
> NIC's out of the old box because it is used for too many things to leave
> it down while we play with it's replacement.
>     I am not claiming victory yet but there is definitely hope for
> success.  I will let everyone know if we are successful.
>     Included below is information about Ver.8.5 Symantec.  It is worth a
> watch to understand what it seems to do.
>
> Cheers,
> Tom VandeWater
> Control Conversions, Inc.
> Kapolei, HI
>
> http://www.symantec.com/business/backup-exec-system-recovery-desktop-edi
> tion#
>
>
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