Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive
- From: "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'[ExchangeList]'" <exchangelist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 10:32:56 -0700
Paul, again, please provide a link or section/page where it is written that
you need to leave the server logged in and locked.
John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:PMAGLINGER@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:15 AM
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive
>
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> Well, publicly owned companies have to "blindly follow the government"
with
> Sarbanes or risk getting nailed by an audit. It is listed as a security
> objective and I have to do it. I also haven't read the entire document,
but
> I can only presume that it involves preventing unauthorized users from
> accessing or deleting data from a server and/or workstation (and thus
> "preserving data" and "forcing accountability" through the use of audit
> logs). Again, I didn't make the rules.
>
> As for this thread, I say "whatever floats your boat". If you are not
held
> to certain security requirements, do whatever security measures you are
> comfortable with. You know your environment better than any body else...
> right?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 11:46
> To: [ExchangeList]
> Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive
>
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> LOL
>
> I went and looked up Sarbane-Oxley act and guess what, it is aimed at
> financial companies more or less. (That is why the name was vaguely
> familiar; it requires e-mail archiving and searching and copies within a
> short amount of time.) It is not a computer or network security document,
> nor is it for companies in general. If you are in the financials sector,
or
> have clients who are, then it may apply to you.
>
> My understanding of the Sarbane-Oxley act is that it has a general purpose
> of preserving data in the financial industry and forcing accountability.
> Now, from a logical common sense standpoint, where does locking a server
> come in to play in forcing accountability and preserving data?
>
> Now, I have not taken the time to read the hundreds of pages in it, but
even
> if it said in there that you must keep your servers and workstation locked
> and not logged out, I could care less. Like I said before, who is going to
> blindly follow what the government says, when they do not know what they
are
> talking about a majority of the time.
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Fugatt [mailto:mark@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 9:24 AM
> > To: [ExchangeList]
> > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to mapped drive
> >
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> >
> > Yes, I would like you to provide me with one link that mentions that
> locking
> > is more secure than logging out.
> >
> > What was the very first Windows 2000 admin book ever written?, and I
will
> see
> > if I can find reference to it in there.
> >
> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004 08:14:21 -0700 (PDT), Jared Johnson wrote
> > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > >
> > > Read the posts again. Do your search on dogpile, read
> > > your beginning admin books. The proof is everywhere.
> > > It's just plain common sense.
> > >
> > > You really want ME to do your research FOR YOU? Am I
> > > your personal secretary dog? Dont' think so. Read the
> > > very first Windows 2000 admin book ever written, and
> > > you'll see. Basics my friend.
> > >
> > > --- "Michael B. Smith" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > >
> > > > Have you yet answered ANYONE as to why?
> > > >
> > > > Or provided a reference? Either Microsoft or FIPS?
> > > > Or anything else for
> > > > that matter?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jared Johnson [mailto:jaredsjazz@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 10:58 AM
> > > > To: [ExchangeList]
> > > > Subject: [exchangelist] Re: Scheduling NTBackup to
> > > > mapped drive
> > > >
> > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > >
> > > > We do the same. Until some provides written
> > > > > documentation from
> > > > > Microsoft or a security company technically
> > > > endorsed by Microsoft, I
> > > > > will continue to Log off my servers when I am
> > > > finished my task.>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All beginning admins do. It's not until you're in
> > > > the big leagues that
> > > > you realize why you should lock your boxes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Danny <nocmonkey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 09:50:17 +0100, Duke
> > > > <duke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > http://www.MSExchange.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Morning, Afternoon, Evenin All.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good morning, Duke and all.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Has Danny's original question been answered?
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not sure, as I have had several different
> > > > responses. My goal is
> > > > > to not have anyone logged in, and two backup jobs
> > > > to run in the
> > > > > background. Both jobs will save the backup to a
> > > > remote Windows 2000
> > > > > server. Job #1 will backup the Information Store,
> > > > Job #2 will backup
> > > > > the System State.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Forgetting the rhetorics, Danny have you gotten
> > > > > the solution to the problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > No.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Locking or logging out depends very much on the
> > > > > environment within which
> > > > > > you are operating. Here, we mostly lock when
> > > > > running a task and log out
> > > > > > otherwise. There is no one clear right way.
> > > > >
> > > > > We do the same. Until some provides written
> > > > documentation from
> > > > > Microsoft or a security company technically
> > > > endorsed by Microsoft, I
> > > > > will continue to Log off my servers when I am
> > > > finished my task.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > ...D
> > > > >
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