[elky] Re: a moment of silence, please

  • From: JAMES HALLADAY <auh2ofan@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:19:13 -0600

Yes, Mary;
  There is lots of gas in Texas.
I think the biggest deposits are around Amarillo. The only way that they
make it is when some of them run their mouths; otherwise, it was put there a
long time ago when the earth's crust was formed.
  (This from a native Texan, so don't anybody get upset).
I remember in about 1950 when there was a natural gas pipeline opened up to
Seattle; we were able to pitch the coal stove that took up lots of space
and
install a floor furnace.

We installed a wood stove in the corner of the living room just prior to the
Y2K fiasco; you just never really know, do you?

I got lots of complaints from "She Who Must be Obeyed" about how much space
had to be used to meet the code, even with lath and plaster walls. (House is
ca.1912).
Funny how she now says "Honey, my feets are cold, can you build a fire?"
I also start getting harassed about June or July to start gathering
firewood.
Response: "Yeah, Yeah, after Land Racing is done in October!"

It just feels soooo good to back up to a fire after following a snow shovel
up and down the sidewalks and driveway.

We've lost power on a few occasions, and I can cook on or in  the stove;
also have a camp stove and Bar-B-Que. (charcoal or propane).

If Robert is far enough out in the country, he could build a drain oil
furnace.
I saw one on a shop out in Wyoming.

I think one of the most important factors in heating a shop is mounting the
firebox at least 18" above the floor.
Most commercial applications are near the ceiling.

Regards,
Jim

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Mary McCarthy <printces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I would like a propane stove with a big old tank in the ground.  The rest I
> can live without during Pioneer Days.  Still worrying about that La Nina
> winter.
>
> Is gas high in TX (they do make it there don't they?)  Ours is imported
> from Canada so it's a luxury, but it would be nice to have a back up stove.
> Generator is spendy for the little use you get out of it.  there's a chart I
> found on the net somewhere that tells you what size you need to run x y and
> z appliances.
>
> The guys selling the solar (here) say it works on cloudy days, but I wonder
> how well.  Right now, it's cloudy, rainy and the sun is very low in the sky
> (below the tree line in front).  Cosmetic flaws are irrelevant, so that
> sounds good for you.
>
> and something went 'BOOM' a few hours ago (speaking of taking trees down).
> Took a walk around and whatever shook the house is still a mystery.
> Probably a good thing.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
>                  Well nothing is gas anymore but the furnace and having and
> the extra cost of also having a gas bill, the numbers just don't work out.
> For outages I can power most everything with a generator and the new AC unit
> will run off a generator as well as it doesn't need a huge one.
>
>                For cooking I always have charcoal grill or propane grill
> under the porch out back. It's metal like the shop and IIRC 20X18. Planning
> on building solar cells to go on the roof of the shop. But... Lately some of
> the B quality panels from the big companies are not much different than
> building them myself. Cosmetic flaws but full warranty and output. Will put
> the power straight into the grid so no batteries etc. WHat we don't use is
> sold back to the utility company. And lots of sun here and the shop roof is
> full sun when the tree next to it is cut down. Right up against it and
> rubbing the roof.. They didn't cut them down before building it.
>
>
>                      Robert Adams
>
>
>
>>
>> it would be wise to keep some of the gas, particularly the stove.  The
>> problem with all electric is when the power goes out you're up the creek
>> without a paddle.   Gas you can still cook.  Ideally, everything should have
>> some sort of backup.
>>
>> Like the shop.  You need more stuff. <G>
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>>>               Here is a pic of the shop in it's current state after I
>>> took down the wall inside that split it in half. Total size is 18 (IIRC) by
>>> 40. There is half a roof outside so when I add on it'll be 60' eventually.
>>> http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/elcam84/new%20house/1288583823.jpg
>>>
>>>                 And a pic with the square tube still in after I took the
>>> sheet down.
>>> http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/elcam84/new%20house/1288583822.jpg
>>>
>>>            Also replaced a section of missing insulation that the POs dog
>>> tore up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>
>

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