Hi Ramon/Fides
I feel your pain totally and completely relate to all of the issues you are
raising.
I think your idea about incremental price increases for 2 or more permits is a
really good idea as an approach to manage the situation and also to promote
green transport. I’m sure the Council would be in full support too as it would
raise their income from parking (possibly they could even look at introducing
one or two electric car charge points as non of us could ever realistically
entertain the idea of an electric car because of outside power and our streets
would look like trip wire maze of extension leads haha).
I agree entirely about the policing of parking and the 6pm time being unhelpful
as it is the time we need it when we are getting home. I really hope the
council consider adopting the non resident bays into the resident parking
scheme to alleviate some of the parking pressures. I do wonder whether it
would be any deterrent if the council put in place 24/7 resident parking
notices (even if they had no intention of enforcing after 6pm), I know not
everyone pays attention but for some people it would work and it would not cost
a great deal of money for a few signs.
Possibly one other option might be for the hotel to have some signage in their
car park to direct their customers to use the rear of the church car park where
I understand an agreement exists for the hotel to utilise as an overspill car
park.
I know these measures won’t solve everything but every little might help.
Really sorry again I can’t make the meeting tonight but hopefully some progress
might be able to be made. I would love to be a fly on the wall when the
Council have to admit by their own data they have over sold parking permits
haha!
Kindest regards
James
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84 Brocco Bank Sheffield S11 8RS
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On 27 Mar 2019, at 18:05, ramen fides <ramenandfides@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi James,
Thank you very much for supplying the figures - the complaint has been made
for years. In fact, we have raised the issue of 'residents only' time right
from the start, as policing during the day is mostly unnecessary and ceases
after 6pm, when many residents are actually getting home from work and
struggle to find parking. The answer has been the same for all those years:
Council only enforces during the day, as they can't afford out-of-hours
policing... In other words, as far as residents' parking is concerned, the
scheme is mostly useless, and the main reason for opting in was the
understanding 'if we don't, we'll be the freebie of the local area' - which
is precisely what happened to Hunter House Road.
When we speak to students, we've been actively trying to dissuade them from
bringing their cars, as they mostly don't need them during the week (in term
time). We have also suggested campaigning for second/third permits to be
*more* expensive than first permits, to emphasise that there are limitations
and to incentivise car-sharing and using public transport... All to no avail.
As the demographics in this area are changing, with more 'young graduates'
sharing HMOs and more young, two-car families moving in, the parking
situation has been getting steadily worse. The street resurfacing has also
resulted in the loss of some parking.
So yes, the situation is unsustainable. At the top end of Rossington/Everton,
overnight parking on double yellow lines is now the norm, and often we dread
coming home late, since we won't be able to park in any permitted space -
sometimes we even give up on going out or staying for longer because of that.
Best,
Ramen & Fides
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 20:20 James Sutherland <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi everyone
I’m sorry I can’t make the meeting this week regarding car parking around the
ECCO forum area due to a family birthday. I like most of us do worry (and
indeed stress) about the daily challenges each of us faces attempting to park
cars in resident spaces we have paid for.
Earlier this year I decided to contact Sheffield City Council to make a
freedom of information request which was quite enlightening…...
I requested to find out:
1. The Council’s estimate of the number of car parking spaces on the roads
of Rossington Road, Newington Road and Everton Road.
2. The total number of permits issued on the roads of Rossington Road,
Newington Road, Everton Road and numbers 78-92 Brocco Bank.
3. Number of properties issued 3 or more permits.
QUESTION 1:
"In relation to the estimation of the number of car parking spaces, the
Council’s Traffic Regulation Order System states the following lengths of
bays:
Rossington Road 137m & 129m
Newington Road 122m & 99m
Everton Road 99m & 174m
TOTAL: 760m
The Council’s transport scheme design team uses an average length of 5.5m
when planning the amount of bays.”
Therefore, 760 Divided by 5.5 (average vehicle length) = 138 spaces based on
the Council’s own calculations.
QUESTION 2:
"In relation to the number of car parking permits issued the Council reports
the following number of resident permits have been issued:
Rossington Road 58
Newington Road 36
Everton Road 60
78 – 92 Brocco Bank 6"
TOTAL: 160 resident permits issued
QUESTION 3:
"No properties can be allocated more than 3 parking permits.
X3 properties on Rossington Road have 3 permits
X1 property of Newington Road has 3 permits
X1 property on Everton Road has 3 permits
No properties (78-92) Brocco Bank have 3 permits"
IN SUMMARY:
Based on the Council’s own figures and on the sample size requested it is
clear the council have over sold and over subscribed on resident parking
permits, granting approximately 22 permits more than there is physically
space for!!!
This is without considering the additional impact of the Brocco on the Park
hotel and restaurant which certainly on Rossington Road places additional
pressure on the parking permits. Ordinarily this would be a problem outside
of the parking restriction times, however, I have all too often seen people
attending the hotel/restaurant parking on Rossington Road with blatant
disregard to resident’s parking being in effect. I am supportive towards the
hotel for the positive image it portrays and this is by no means a criticism
of the staff and management of the hotel as this situation is beyond their
control.
MY QUESTIONS/OBSERVATIONS:
1. Why is the resident’s parking restriction time limited to up until 6pm
when to attempt to manage the parking situation 24/7 restrictions are needed
to attempt to supply sufficient parking for the resident permits issued?
2. How do the Council plan to take action to more appropriately match the
number of allocated parking bays to the actual capacity?
3. Why do students receive a discount for resident parking permits? Many
students are resident in Sheffield for the bulk of the year and we do not
offer discounts on factors such as road tax, so why should parking be any
different?
4. Given there is a clear oversubscription of parking spaces at this time,
would it be sensible for the non-residential parking spaces at the bottom of
Rossington Road and Newington Road to be converted into resident only parking
to attempt to manage the shortage of capacity that has been created by the
Council issuing too many resident permits?
Once again, sorry I am unable to make the meeting and also for the length of
this email but hopefully the information may be of use and also makes
interesting reading for those of us frustrated with struggles to find car
parking spaces at times.
Kind regards
James
James Sutherland
Director
84 Brocco Bank Sheffield S11 8RS
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On 13 Mar 2019, at 19:42, Gwen Wilson <wilsongw123@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:wilsongw123@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I intend to attend.
Gwen
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 1:31 PM Mike and Jan Andrews <botanic88@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:botanic88@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi all
You may remember that a nearby community group (BGCA) wanted to hold a
meeting concerning Parking Permits on 20th February. It was cancelled
because the councillor concerned couldn't attend.
BGCA have arranged another meeting for Wednesday 27th March at 8.00 pm at
the Well on Ecclesall Road. Cllr Neale Gibson should be there. I've been
told that he is now responsible for parking permits.
ECCO members are invited, but please reply to this email or let me know
somehow if you are fairly sure you want to come. This is important because
BGCA needs a good idea of the numbers.
Also please remember that we are only invited to deal with the specific
issue of parking permits, not to air our grievances about everything else!
Mike
