I agree that the first permit should be cheaper than others. Perhaps an
ascending charge would help for further permits per house.Agree we should ask
the unis to discourage students from bringing cars. Only students who need to
travel for the course eg for placements- this applies to medical students, for
example. I too often have to park illegally as no other space in the street or
nearby when i get home late, which is a worry.JudeSent from Samsung tablet.
-------- Original message --------From: ramen fides <ramenandfides@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 27/03/2019 18:05 (GMT+00:00) To: eccotalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject:
[eccotalk] Re: Botanical Gate Community Group meeting about parking permits Hi
James,Thank you very much for supplying the figures - the complaint has been
made for years. In fact, we have raised the issue of 'residents only' time
right from the start, as policing during the day is mostly unnecessary and
ceases after 6pm, when many residents are actually getting home from work and
struggle to find parking. The answer has been the same for all those years:
Council only enforces during the day, as they can't afford out-of-hours
policing... In other words, as far as residents' parking is concerned, the
scheme is mostly useless, and the main reason for opting in was the
understanding 'if we don't, we'll be the freebie of the local area' - which is
precisely what happened to Hunter House Road.When we speak to students, we've
been actively trying to dissuade them from bringing their cars, as they mostly
don't need them during the week (in term time). We have also suggested
campaigning for second/third permits to be *more* expensive than first permits,
to emphasise that there are limitations and to incentivise car-sharing and
using public transport... All to no avail.As the demographics in this area are
changing, with more 'young graduates' sharing HMOs and more young, two-car
families moving in, the parking situation has been getting steadily worse. The
street resurfacing has also resulted in the loss of some parking. So yes, the
situation is unsustainable. At the top end of Rossington/Everton, overnight
parking on double yellow lines is now the norm, and often we dread coming home
late, since we won't be able to park in any permitted space - sometimes we even
give up on going out or staying for longer because of that.Best,Ramen & FidesOn
Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 20:20 James Sutherland <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:Hi
everyoneI’m sorry I can’t make the meeting this week regarding car
parking around the ECCO forum area due to a family birthday. I
like most of us do worry (and indeed stress) about the daily challenges each of
us faces attempting
to park cars in resident spaces we have paid for.Earlier this year I decided to
contact Sheffield City Council
to make a freedom of information request which was quite enlightening…...I
requested to find out: 1. The Council’s estimate of the number of car parking
spaces on the roads of Rossington Road, Newington Road and Everton Road. 2. The
total number of permits issued on the roads
of Rossington Road, Newington Road, Everton Road and numbers 78-92 Brocco Bank.
3. Number of properties issued 3 or more permits. QUESTION 1:"In relation to
the estimation of the number of car parking
spaces, the Council’s Traffic Regulation Order System states the following
lengths of bays:Rossington Road 137m & 129mNewington Road 122m & 99mEverton
Road 99m & 174mTOTAL: 760mThe Council’s transport scheme design team uses an
average length
of 5.5m when planning the amount of bays.” Therefore, 760 Divided by 5.5
(average vehicle length) = 138 spaces based on the Council’s own
calculations.QUESTION 2:"In relation to the number of car parking permits
issued the Council
reports the following number of resident permits have been issued:Rossington
Road 58Newington Road 36Everton Road 6078 – 92 Brocco Bank 6"TOTAL: 160
resident permits issued QUESTION 3:"No properties can be allocated more than 3
parking permits.X3 properties on Rossington Road have 3 permitsX1 property of
Newington Road has 3 permitsX1 property on Everton Road has 3 permitsNo
properties (78-92) Brocco Bank have 3 permits"IN SUMMARY:Based on the Council’s
own figures and on the sample size
requested it is clear the council have over sold and over subscribed on
resident parking permits, granting approximately 22 permits more than there is
physically space for!!!This is without considering the additional impact of the
Brocco on the Park hotel and restaurant which certainly on Rossington Road
places additional pressure on the parking permits. Ordinarily this would be a
problem outside of
the parking restriction times, however, I have all too often seen people
attending the hotel/restaurant parking on Rossington Road with blatant
disregard to resident’s parking being in effect. I am supportive towards the
hotel for the
positive image it portrays and this is by no means a criticism of the staff and
management of the hotel as this situation is beyond their control. MY
QUESTIONS/OBSERVATIONS:1. Why is the resident’s parking restriction time
limited to up until 6pm when to attempt to manage the parking situation 24/7
restrictions are needed to attempt to supply sufficient parking for the
resident permits issued?2. How do the Council plan to take action to more
appropriately match the number of allocated parking bays to the actual
capacity?3. Why do students receive a discount for resident
parking permits? Many students are
resident in Sheffield for the bulk of the year and we do not offer discounts on
factors such as road tax, so why should parking be any different?4. Given there
is a clear oversubscription of parking spaces at this time, would it be
sensible for the non-residential parking spaces at the bottom of Rossington
Road and Newington Road to be converted into resident only parking to attempt
to manage the shortage of capacity that has been created by the Council issuing
too many resident permits?
Once again, sorry I am unable to make the meeting and also for the length of
this email but hopefully the information may be of use and also makes
interesting reading for those of us frustrated with struggles to find car
parking spaces at times.Kind regardsJames
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On 13 Mar 2019, at 19:42, Gwen Wilson <wilsongw123@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I intend to
attend.GwenOn Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 1:31 PM Mike and Jan Andrews
<botanic88@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all
You may remember that a nearby community group (BGCA) wanted to hold a meeting
concerning Parking Permits on 20th February. It was cancelled because the
councillor concerned couldn't attend.
BGCA have arranged another meeting for Wednesday 27th March at 8.00 pm at the
Well on Ecclesall Road. Cllr Neale Gibson should be there. I've been told that
he is now responsible for parking permits.
ECCO members are invited, but please reply to this email or let me know somehow
if you are fairly sure you want to come. This is important because BGCA needs a
good idea of the numbers.
Also please remember that we are only invited to deal with the specific issue
of parking permits, not to air our grievances about everything else!
Mike
