George, That's why I'm not proposing to remove it. But -- after release, when there will be time again to test over the course of several weeks -- we could move the Control-Z to end-of-job. It now sits in end-of-copy. There is a big difference potentially; moreover, I suggest that end-of-copy is wrong in theory, as well as having some odd implications in practice. I just don't want to rush into any changes right now. - Peter -----Original Message----- From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:52 PM To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page. Hi Peter, Ctrl + z is essentially to tell the Index that it has received all the data. Trust me! Removing it will open a whole can of man eating worms. George. > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Sullivan > Sent: 19 August 2004 17:44 > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page. > > Tesfaye, > > It appears that DBT 10.5 is programmed to send a Control-Z to the > Everest at the end of each copy; this is a new behavior for DBT 10.5, > and is presumably sparking the verbal feedback from the embosser. > > I'm not sure why this is done at the end of each copy, rather than at > the end of all copies. David perhaps can weigh in on this soon; I'll > ask him to consider this. At the same time, I hesitate to change the > behavior now, as any such change would impact many embossers, not just > the Everest. This strikes me as one of these issues that is best > handled shortly after initial release. > > - Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:38 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page. > > I meant DBT 10.4. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Sullivan [mailto:peter@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:30 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page. > > > Tesfaye, > > When you say "in the past," do you mean with DBT 10.4, or with earlier > DBT > 10.5 beta software? > > - Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesfaye Mihretu > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:22 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page. > > Hello Peter, Yes I do get this message. In the past I use to get > this message only when the no of copies finished. > > Tesfaye > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Sullivan [mailto:peter@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:16 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page. > > > Tesfaye, > > When you select "Index Everest..." to drive this embosser, do you > still get "Everest Ready" announcement between copies? > > - Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesfaye Mihretu > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:17 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille page. > > Hello George, It is Index Everest. I just selected from the list you > provided. > > Tesfaye > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Bell [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of George Bell > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:06 PM > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per braille > page. > > > Why are you selecting Index Blue bar to drive an Everest? > > Or have I misunderstood something? > > George Bell. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: 19 August 2004 17:00 > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per > braille page. > > > > Sorry Peter, I did misunderstand your instructions. As soon as I > > sent you an email, I realized what I did was wrong. > > However when I am embossing multi copies, Everest embosser > is giving > > "Everest ready" echo every time it embosses a page. > > Most of the time my business card file has only one page. Is there > > any way I could turn off that sound. This only happens > when I select > > Index Basic (blue bar) machine. > > > > Your assistance is very much appreciated. > > > > Tesfaye > > CNIB > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Sullivan [mailto:peter@xxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:16 AM > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per > braille page. > > > > > > Tesfaye, > > > > I have no problem embossing this document. > > > > Let me try again to ask the questions I asked earlier. It > seems that > > you may have misunderstood them. > > > > I am only interested in embossing from DBT 10.5; the success or > > failure of other products, including DBT 10.4 isn't my concern. > > > > DBT can emboss to an Index embosser by connecting directly to the > > serial or parallel port to which the embosser is attached. DBT can > > also emboss to an Index embosser by connecting through the Index > > driver. One controls how DBT connects to the embosser by selecting > > the embosser name in either Document, Embosser Setup or Global, > > Embosser Setup. > > Then, you must click the Edit button and select either "Send to > > Printer" (to write through the Index > > driver) or "Write to Port" (to write directly to the port > to which the > > embosser is attached). I am interested to know whether you > have tried > > with each of these approaches. > > > > If neither approach works, please try embossing to a file > (choose the > > third option -- "Write to File" after clicking the Edit > button), and > > then send this file to me. > > > > - Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesfaye Mihretu > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:36 PM > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per > braille page. > > > > Hello Peter, I am just sending you a small file (1 page > > long) It works fine with DBT 10.4 version. Index's own printer > > drivers works. Can you try this file? Thanks. > > > > Tesfaye > > CNIB > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Sullivan [mailto:peter@xxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:26 AM > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per > braille page. > > > > > > Tesfaye, > > > > I agree -- worrisome is a good word. > > > > I cannot think of any good reason why this would be > happening in beta > > 6 and not in beta 5 (or beta 1, for that matter). > > We've changed little about the Index "drivers" in that time > > -- and absolutely nothing that should have any direct bearing since > > beta 5. > > > > Have you tried both: > > - Embossing through Index's own printer drivers, and > > - Embossing directly to a serial or parallel port? > > > > If so, please try also embossing to a file, then send me the file. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tesfaye Mihretu > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 8:47 AM > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per > braille page. > > > > Hello All, This is becoming worrisome to me. I am having the same > > problems that I did not have in Beta 5. Here at the CNIB, > we do have > > 2 Index Basic-D and One Index 4 x 4 Pro. I just tried Beta > 6 version > > of DBT on each of them and only a dot embossed. > > > > Any ideas why this happens all the sudden. > > > > Tesfaye > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dave Durber [mailto:dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:22 PM > > To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per > braille page. > > > > > > Please, when responding to messages such as my original message, > > specify not only the make but also the model by that particular > > manufacturer. > > > > If I didn't know Index products, I would not have a clue as > to whether > > you were talking about an Index Basic-D, Index Basic-S, > Index 4 x 4, > > etc. > > > > Saying that your embosser has 10.4, tells me absolutely > nothing about > > the model of embosser. > > > > Index might have an embosser called 10.4. > > > > The number 10.4 might refer to the firmware that is > installed, or it > > could be the particular version of the software that your > machine has > > loaded. > > > > Sincerely: > > > > Dave Durber > > > > On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:54:09 -1000, you wrote: > > > > >My 2 cents worth: > > >My Index is 10.4. > > >I have the top margin on the embosser set to 1. > > >In DBT I have desired lines at 25 and top to 0. > > >The default line spacing is 5.0. > > > > > >At 08:24 AM 8/16/2004, you wrote: > > >>Dave, > > >> > > >>I agree in principle that DBT should be able to calculate > > these things > > >>correctly, provided only that you tell DBT what the line > spacing is. > > >>Of course, that suggests that DBT would ask. However, > > we're not able > > >>to add that feature before release. > > >> > > >>The good news for all concerned is that DBT's embosser > > setup & driving > > >>is contained in a separate DLL, so we'll be able to touch > up things > > >>like this without going through a full new release cycle. > > >> > > >>As for the question of what the factory default setting is > > -- I don't > > know. > > >>David is investigating this now. > > >> > > >>- Peter > > >> > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Durber > > >>Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 2:24 PM > > >>To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per > > braille page. > > >> > > >>Regardless as to whether my embosser is set to the > > "default" or not, > > >>DBT should be able to make the right calculation as to > the correct > > >>number of lines per page no matter what the Line Spacing is > > set in the > > embosser. > > >> > > >>Just for interest sake, what should the default line > > spacing be when > > >>an index Basic-D leaves the manufacturer. > > >> > > >>Sincerely: > > >> > > >>Dave Durber > > >> > > >>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:52:57 -0400, you wrote: > > >> > > >> >Hi Peter. > > >> > > > >> >Yes, I think you hit the nail on the head as usual, line > > spacing is > > >> >not set > > >>at the default in Dave's embosser and that may be the issue. > > >> > > > >> >I wonder then could other parameters break this such as > > setting it > > >> >to > > >>Japanese braille etc? > > >> > > > >> >I am a bit puzzled. > > >> > > > >> >Don > > >> > > > >> >On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:26:47 -0400, Peter Sullivan wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>Don, > > >> >> > > >> >>That is not true. Dave has in fact set things up > > correctly, by all > > >> >>appearances. My guess is that we just have the wrong > > value for the > > >> >>number of lines that a Basic-D might put on 11" paper. > Perhaps > > >> >>this is because Dave uses a spacing that we didn't anticipate. > > >> >> > > >> >>For the record, DBT's "Desired" top margin in *not* > added to the > > >> >>top margin specified in Device Settings. Rather, DBT > > enforces the > > >> >>value in Device Settings ad the minimum possible value for a > > >> >>desired top margin. DBT adds CR/LF pairs (or whatever > > line ending > > >> >>is appropriate) when the desired top margin exceeds the Device > > >> >>Settings > > value. > > >> >> > > >> >>- Peter > > >> >> > > >> >>-----Original Message----- > > >> >>From: duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> >>[mailto:duxhelp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Breda > > >> >>Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:08 PM > > >> >>To: duxhelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> >>Subject: [duxhelp] Re: Not able to ge desired lines per > > braille page. > > >> >> > > >> >>Hi Dave. > > >> >> > > >> >>You have a top margin of 1 in the embosser setup and a > > top margin > > >> >>of 1 in the Index embosser itself. This is your problem. > > >> >> > > >> >>You can not have an option such as top margin set in > both places. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>Don > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:26:32 -0400, Dave Durber wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >>>I own three Index Basic-D braille embossers. Firmware > > version II, > > >> >>>software version 4.40 installed. > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Since the beginning of the Beta Cycle for the release > > of DBT 10.5, > > >> >>>I have been trying to understand why I cannot emboss > > the desired > > >> >>>number of lines per page from the embosser when using > DBT 10.5. > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Following are the settings that I set in the Basic-D: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Group Page Layout Menu > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Characters Per Line: 30 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Left Margin: 0 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>B Margin: 0 (This is actually Binding Margin). > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Top Margin: 1 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Bottom Margin: 0 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Line Spacing: 5.2 (At this setting, with the top > > margin set to 1, > > >> >>>the embosser can emboss 25 lines per page. With a top > > margin of > > >> >>>0, the embosser can emboss 26 lines per page but the embosser > > >> >>>starts embossing approximately 1 quarter of an inch > > from the top > > >> >>>of the page, which is too near the top of the page. > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Page Mode: Double-Sided > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Print Mode: Normal > > >> >>> > > >> >>>page number: off > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Paper Length 1: 11 inches > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Paper Length 2: 11 inches > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Z-folding: Off > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Group Option Settings > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Word Wrap: Off > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Auto Line Feed: Off > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Form-Feed: Off > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Impact Level: 4 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Delay Time: 4 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Print Quality: Normal > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Graphic Dot Distance: 2.0 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Text Dot Distance: Normal Pring-out Mode 2.5 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Setup: Open > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Paper Jam: On > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Distance After File: 1 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>DBT 10.5 Settings: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Global Embosser Settings: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Braiiller Device: Basic-D > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Under Brailler Device Edit Button: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>General Tab Page: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Embosser Model: Index Basic-D > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Setup Name: Basic-D > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Default Form: Narrow Width, 11 inch long, braille paper > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Output Options: Write to port > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Output to LPT1 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Device Settings Tab Page > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Embosser Version: Firmware Version II > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Left margin (extra cells): 0 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Rightmost cell placement: 30 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Top Margin setting: 1 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Interpoint embossing is enabled: checked > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Output encoding: North American > > >> >>> > > >> >>>High Punctuation: Uppercase > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Letter case: Lowercase > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Advanced Tab Page > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Job setup, use custom job setup: unchecked > > >> >>> > > >> >>>End of line indicator: Carriage Return, line feed (PC) > > >> >>> > > >> >>>End of page indicator: Form Feed Only > > >> >>> > > >> >>>EOL on a full line: Checked > > >> >>> > > >> >>>The last four buttons on this page are unchecked > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Returning to the Global Embosser Setup Page > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Braille formatting form: Narrow width, 11 inch long, > > braille paper > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Desired formatting: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Characters per line: 30 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Lines per page: 25 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Top Margin: 1 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Binding Margin: 0 > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Emboss in interpoint: Checked > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Emboss Banner page: unchecked > > >> >>> > > >> >>>When I emboss a file with the above settings, I do not get a > > >> >>>braille file with 25 lines embossed on each side of the > > page as I > > would expect. > > >> >>>However, If I set the number of lines in DBT to 24, I get a > > >> >>>braille output that has 24 lines of braille on each > side of the > > >> >>>sheet > > of paper. > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Please advise me as to how I can get 25 lines on each > side of a > > >> >>>sheet of paper, using the above settings. > > >> >>> > > >> >>>I have run out of ideas. > > >> >>> > > >> >>>Personally speaking, all of the embosser information > > should not be > > >> >>>contained in one embosser such as "emb.elt". 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