No, l am asking a straight up question to one who has a politics degree from a reputable university :) Are you a Marxist by that response :) ________________________________ From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of professor rat [pro2rat@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 9:30 p.m. To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cryptome] Re: Microsoft and the NSA Pessimism is a counter-revolutionary attitude today. Read the Cyphernomicon and Assassination Politics. Crypto-anarchy is getting bigger every year. ________________________________ From: Peter Presland <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 10:58 PM Subject: [cryptome] Re: Microsoft and the NSA On 19/07/2013 13:02, Gary Wallin wrote: > On 7/18/2013 7:59 PM, John Young wrote: >> ...its greatest enemy is its hyper-paranoia. >> >> National security is not about protecting the nation, its aim >> is to generate fear of its inevitable failure. > John, perhaps you are too pessimistic..... I think John has it pretty well nailed with that comment. Agreed, 'human nature' is the core issue but.... here's the way I see it: unless ways can be found to reverse the historic correlation between the acquisition and retention/perpetuation of power, then humanity itself has no future other than existence in variations on the dystopian visions of George Orwell and Aldous Huxley - and I see precious little sign of progress towards such an existence being halted, let alone reversed - quite the opposite in fact.