No, no-one said anything about that. KOF 12 on the other hand... On 5 Feb 2014 13:08, "Sean Carrington" <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Did someone say SFxT ? > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Let me know were as it is my 1st time >>> >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i had >>> > sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player >>> > now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around. >>> > >>> > On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a >>> >> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and will >>> >> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what games r >>> >> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2 >>> >> belville 2 get use 2 the flow. >>> >> >>> >> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit but I don't >>> >>> play >>> >>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on SupArc now. >>> >>> It's >>> >>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want >>> to. >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof >>> 2002 >>> >>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no >>> profit >>> >>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b >>> >>>> smashed"d.^_^;) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me? >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is about >>> to >>> >>>> have a >>> >>>> > heart-attack. >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington >>> >>>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx >>> >>>> >> wrote: >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >> I think I'm troubled. >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom >>> >>>> >> Claremont. >>> >>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*. >>> >>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced >>> subjectively... >>> >>>> >>> See >>> >>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or >>> >>>> >>> google >>> >>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable example. >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the >>> >>>> >>>> article >>> >>>> or >>> >>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge >>> Fund >>> >>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in >>> the >>> >>>> >>>> quant >>> >>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn into >>> >>>> >>>> R500, >>> >>>> >>>> if >>> >>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for >>> >>>> >>>> adaption >>> >>>> >>>> here >>> >>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is >>> also >>> >>>> >>>> the >>> >>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected >>> this >>> >>>> >>>> when >>> >>>> >>>> I >>> >>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd >>> >>>> >>>> implement >>> >>>> >>>> like, >>> >>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have >>> any >>> >>>> >>>> statical >>> >>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent >>> of >>> >>>> running >>> >>>> >>>> a >>> >>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is >>> akin >>> >>>> >>>> to >>> >>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best >>> variables >>> >>>> >>>> that >>> >>>> >>>> fit >>> >>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a >>> data-base >>> >>>> first, >>> >>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables >>> and >>> >>>> >>>> the >>> >>>> ANN >>> >>>> >>>> is >>> >>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide >>> what >>> >>>> >>>> it >>> >>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out, >>> >>>> >>>> that >>> >>>> >>>> is >>> >>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people >>> have >>> >>>> >>>> used >>> >>>> >>>> GA's >>> >>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I >>> would >>> >>>> >>>> is >>> >>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently, >>> just as >>> >>>> >>>> we >>> >>>> >>>> do. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic >>> >>>> >>>> shocks, >>> >>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust >>> >>>> >>>> accordingly >>> >>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't >>> >>>> necessarily >>> >>>> >>>> be >>> >>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always wait >>> >>>> >>>> for >>> >>>> >>>> some >>> >>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else >>> >>>> >>>> I'd >>> >>>> >>>> go >>> >>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market values >>> it >>> >>>> >>>> at >>> >>>> >>>> and >>> >>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I >>> had a >>> >>>> basic >>> >>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock >>> >>>> >>>> falls >>> >>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd >>> be a >>> >>>> >>>> billionaire by now. >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>> >>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> @GB >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market. >>> It >>> >>>> >>>>> seems >>> >>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds are >>> >>>> already >>> >>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though). Was >>> >>>> >>>>> that >>> >>>> >>>>> paper >>> >>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the >>> questions >>> >>>> >>>>> I >>> >>>> had. >>> >>>> >>>>> It >>> >>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data is >>> run >>> >>>> >>>>> on >>> >>>> >>>>> live >>> >>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from >>> "over-fitting", >>> >>>> which >>> >>>> >>>>> is >>> >>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past >>> >>>> >>>>> performance >>> >>>> in >>> >>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs don't >>> >>>> >>>>> take >>> >>>> >>>>> into >>> >>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail >>> miserably >>> >>>> when >>> >>>> >>>>> they >>> >>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do >>> is to >>> >>>> >>>>> try >>> >>>> >>>>> to >>> >>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad. >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama >>> >>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be at >>> the >>> >>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email >>> >>>> >>>>>> address. >>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets >>> >>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>> >>>>>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> lol, >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton >>> myself >>> >>>> >>>>>>> , >>> >>>> >>>>>>> and >>> >>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails. >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>> >>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200 >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi >>> >>>> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx >>> >>>> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I >>> can >>> >>>> >>>>>>> see >>> >>>> >>>>>>> em, >>> >>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :) >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse < >>> >>>> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is... >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows >>> this. >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>> ========================================================================= >>> >>>> >>>>>>> You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community >>> >>>> >>>>>>> mailing >>> >>>> >>>>>>> list. >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> >>> ========================================================================= >>> >>>> You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community mailing >>> >>>> list. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> ========================================================================= >>> You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community mailing list. >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc >>> >> >> >