Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:06 +0200

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On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
>
> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i had
> > sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player
> > now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
> >
> > On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
> >> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and will
> >> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what games r
> >> famous 2 play.train.and thn c  it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
> >> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
> >>
> >> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> I remember playing you on GGPO.  My user name is ilitirit but I don't
> >>> play
> >>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work.  We play on SupArc now.
> >>> It's
> >>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want to.
> >>>
> >>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof 2002
> >>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no profit
> >>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
> >>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is about to
> >>>> have a
> >>>> > heart-attack.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
> >>>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
> >>>> >> Claremont.
> >>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
> >>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced subjectively...
> >>>> >>> See
> >>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
> >>>> >>> google
> >>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable example.
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
> >>>> >>>> article
> >>>> or
> >>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge
> Fund
> >>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in the
> >>>> >>>> quant
> >>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn into
> >>>> >>>> R500,
> >>>> >>>> if
> >>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
> >>>> >>>> adaption
> >>>> >>>> here
> >>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is
> also
> >>>> >>>> the
> >>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected this
> >>>> >>>> when
> >>>> >>>> I
> >>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
> >>>> >>>> implement
> >>>> >>>> like,
> >>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have any
> >>>> >>>> statical
> >>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent of
> >>>> running
> >>>> >>>> a
> >>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is akin
> >>>> >>>> to
> >>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best variables
> >>>> >>>> that
> >>>> >>>> fit
> >>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a data-base
> >>>> first,
> >>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables and
> >>>> >>>> the
> >>>> ANN
> >>>> >>>> is
> >>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide
> what
> >>>> >>>> it
> >>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out,
> >>>> >>>> that
> >>>> >>>> is
> >>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people have
> >>>> >>>> used
> >>>> >>>> GA's
> >>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I
> would
> >>>> >>>> is
> >>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently, just
> as
> >>>> >>>> we
> >>>> >>>> do.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic
> >>>> >>>> shocks,
> >>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
> >>>> >>>> accordingly
> >>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
> >>>> necessarily
> >>>> >>>> be
> >>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always wait
> >>>> >>>> for
> >>>> >>>> some
> >>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>   As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else
> >>>> >>>> I'd
> >>>> >>>> go
> >>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market values it
> >>>> >>>> at
> >>>> >>>> and
> >>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I had a
> >>>> basic
> >>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock
> >>>> >>>> falls
> >>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd be a
> >>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>> @GB
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market.  It
> >>>> >>>>> seems
> >>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds are
> >>>> already
> >>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though).  Was
> >>>> >>>>> that
> >>>> >>>>> paper
> >>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone?  It answers a lot of the questions
> >>>> >>>>> I
> >>>> had.
> >>>> >>>>>  It
> >>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data is
> run
> >>>> >>>>> on
> >>>> >>>>> live
> >>>> >>>>> data.  Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from "over-fitting",
> >>>> which
> >>>> >>>>> is
> >>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned.  They try to adjust to past
> >>>> >>>>> performance
> >>>> in
> >>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result.  However, most GAs don't
> >>>> >>>>> take
> >>>> >>>>> into
> >>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail
> miserably
> >>>> when
> >>>> >>>>> they
> >>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data.  The best they can do is
> to
> >>>> >>>>> try
> >>>> >>>>> to
> >>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription.  The link should be at
> the
> >>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages.  Give me his email
> >>>> >>>>>> address.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
> >>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> lol,
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton
> myself
> >>>> >>>>>>> ,
> >>>> >>>>>>> and
> >>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> >>>> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I can
> >>>> >>>>>>> see
> >>>> >>>>>>> em,
> >>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
> >>>> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows
> this.
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>
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