Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:12:46 +0200
Don't worry about stuff like that. Just show up and play. We play all
kinds of games including KOF XIII. Just bring your PS3 controller and come
have fun.
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i had
> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player
> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>
> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
> > copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and will
> > soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what games r
> > famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
> > belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
> >
> > On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit but I don't
> >> play
> >> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on SupArc now.
> It's
> >> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want to.
> >>
> >> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof 2002
> >>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no profit
> >>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
> >>> smashed"d.^_^;)
> >>>
> >>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
> >>> >
> >>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is about to
> >>> have a
> >>> > heart-attack.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
> >>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> I think I'm troubled.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
> Claremont.
> >>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
> >>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced subjectively...
> >>> >>> See
> >>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
> >>> >>> google
> >>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable example.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
> >>> >>>> article
> >>> or
> >>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge Fund
> >>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in the
> >>> >>>> quant
> >>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn into
> >>> >>>> R500,
> >>> >>>> if
> >>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
> >>> >>>> adaption
> >>> >>>> here
> >>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is also
> >>> >>>> the
> >>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected this
> >>> >>>> when
> >>> >>>> I
> >>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
> implement
> >>> >>>> like,
> >>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have any
> >>> >>>> statical
> >>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent of
> >>> running
> >>> >>>> a
> >>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is akin
> to
> >>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best variables
> >>> >>>> that
> >>> >>>> fit
> >>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a data-base
> >>> first,
> >>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables and
> >>> >>>> the
> >>> ANN
> >>> >>>> is
> >>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide what
> >>> >>>> it
> >>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out,
> that
> >>> >>>> is
> >>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people have
> >>> >>>> used
> >>> >>>> GA's
> >>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I would
> >>> >>>> is
> >>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently, just as
> >>> >>>> we
> >>> >>>> do.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic
> >>> >>>> shocks,
> >>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
> >>> >>>> accordingly
> >>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
> >>> necessarily
> >>> >>>> be
> >>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always wait
> for
> >>> >>>> some
> >>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else
> I'd
> >>> >>>> go
> >>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market values it
> >>> >>>> at
> >>> >>>> and
> >>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I had a
> >>> basic
> >>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock
> >>> >>>> falls
> >>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd be a
> >>> >>>> billionaire by now.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>> @GB
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market. It
> >>> >>>>> seems
> >>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds are
> >>> already
> >>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though). Was
> that
> >>> >>>>> paper
> >>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the questions
> I
> >>> had.
> >>> >>>>> It
> >>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data is run
> >>> >>>>> on
> >>> >>>>> live
> >>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from "over-fitting",
> >>> which
> >>> >>>>> is
> >>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past
> >>> >>>>> performance
> >>> in
> >>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs don't
> >>> >>>>> take
> >>> >>>>> into
> >>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail miserably
> >>> when
> >>> >>>>> they
> >>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do is to
> >>> >>>>> try
> >>> >>>>> to
> >>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> >>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be at the
> >>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email
> >>> >>>>>> address.
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
> >>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>>>>> > wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> lol,
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton myself
> >>> >>>>>>> ,
> >>> >>>>>>> and
> >>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> >>> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I can
> >>> >>>>>>> see
> >>> >>>>>>> em,
> >>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
> >>> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows this.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
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