I went to http://www.elated.com/tutorials/management/unix/basic/ and I learned how to use telenet and what it is for. I also learned some of the commands that you can use while on it.. I practiced telnet at http://www.moongate.net/ what happened was you had to log in to play and pick the port that you want. Souci Chappell --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.