[bksvol-discuss] Re: tabs bullets and plank pages
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
Thanksm, Gerald. I was hoping that I was not
understanding correctly when people were saying that
the stripper stripped the tabbing of paragraphs. It's
so much faster to hit tab than to space. If spacing is
what's needed, though I'll do it.
Five spaces looked too big an indentation to me, which
is why I went to the equivalent of three. If it isn't
to short to be of use to Braille readers, I'll space
three times whenI finish the books I'm working on now.
If Braille readers need longer indentations, I'll
change.
Cindy
-- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Cindy,
>
> It doesn't look like anyone else is going to tackle
> your question, so I'll
> give it a shot.
>
> The points you are talking about is how far the
> cursor is from the left side
> of the page and would be the same if you are
> manually indenting by a tab or
> spaces. From what you said in your message, though,
> it sounds like you're
> using a tab to indent the paragraph, and from what
> others have said, the tab
> will be stripped, so the question of indenting by
> 0.25 or 0.5 in the case of
> tabs doesn't matter. If you start indenting using
> spaces, then I'd say use
> 0.5 to make it easier for members reading the book
> visually since Bookshare
> is for people with a print disability, not a visual
> disability. You'd be a
> better judge of how much space is needed to
> recognize the paragraphs easily
> visually, though. As for Braille users, I would
> expect the Braille
> translater to reduce the number of spaces to the
> appropriate number for
> Braille. Perhaps it doesn't, though. Maybe another
> volunteer who uses
> Braille like Kellie can give us the answer. Since
> we're unsure at this
> time, if 0.25 is adequate for you to recognize the
> beginning of a paragraph
> in Print Preview or the Print View, then I'd say go
> with it.
>
> Gerald
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:19 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tabs bullets and plank
> pages
>
>
> Shelley et al,
>
> Are spaces the same as points in Word? I've been
> shortening my paragraph tabs, when I can't skip
> lines
> between paragraphs, to .25 instead of the default
> .5,
> because the latter seemed so large. Is a large
> indent
> better than a shorter one? Should I use .5, which I
> think is 5 letter spaces, instead of 3? Which is
> better for Braille users? (I should have asked this
> before, I guess. Sorry).
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
> -- juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > /a Tab is usually six spaces, though I have seen
> > some that are five.
> >
> > Bullets do come out in braille.
> >
> >
> > Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
> > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> > Graduate Advisory Council
> > www.guidedogs.com
> >
> > The vision must be followed by the venture. It is
> > not enough to
> > stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
> >
> > -- Vance Havner
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck"
> > <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 4:46 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tabs bullets and plank
> > pages
> >
> >
> > I am preparing to upload something that I really
> > don't want messed up. I
> > am concerned about several issues.
> >
> > First, I didn't know about the Kurzweil issue that
> > may cause blank pages to
> > disappear from RTFs when I edited the book. Now I
> > don't know of a very
> > easy way to go through the book to find the blank
> > pages and insert
> > something like the page number or [picture]. I
> > don't want the blank pages
> > to disappear because the page numbering is perfect
> > and will be even without
> > DAISY tags since the first scanned page is
> actually
> > page 1 in this case.
> > Does anyone have any ideas? The only thing I can
> > think of is to upload in
> > KES format, but that will limit who could work on
> > it.
> >
> > Second, the book contains useful tabs, which
> > conversion will remove. I
> > just don't know how many spaces to replace the
> tabs
> > with. I really am
> > discusted by that problem, since tabs should be a
> > valid and recognized
> > character. The problem is really bookshare's
> issue
> > and it should be fixed
> > sometime during their improvement process. For
> now
> > i would just like a
> > number of spaces that would be most likely to work
> > okay.
> >
> > Third, has anyone ever seen a bullet in a DAISY or
> > BRF file? If anyone has
> > reason to believe that they do not come out
> > correctly, can you give me a
> > suggestion of a character to use instead of the
> > bullets? Unfortunately
> > star will not work that well in this case. There
> > are too many used for
> > footnotes and I don't really want to give them a
> > double purpose.
> >
> > This book will most likely cause copyright
> > questions, but I wrote an
> > extensive comment that i hope the validator can
> pass
> > on to admin to get the
> > book pushed through the first time. :-)
> >
> > The book is called "What Does the Bible Really
> > Teach?" And is really ment
> > to be like a textbook that answers specific Bible
> > questions by explaining
> > illustrating, and providing large numbers of
> > specific Bible verses to
> > support the reasoning presented. To someone not
> > used to the blabbing of
> > Bible citations by a synthesizer it could be
> > annoying. :-) I hope they
> > don't come out strangely after translation.
> > Each page has a number of numbered paragraphs and
> > corresponding questions
> > at the bottom of the page. Not perfect for BRF
> > format, but I really
> > couldn't do anything about it within this
> lifetime.
> >
> > Please write if you have any suggestions or if you
> > would be willing to be a
> > careful validator for this book. With careful I
> > only mean putting it
> > through as little conversion or other steps that
> > might introduce errors as
> > possible. It shouldn't need much editing because
> I
> > was about as careful as
> > I could be while reading it, and i also had help
> > from my husband when I
> > came accross problem spots. As always, I make no
> > claims of perfection,
> > though. :-)
> >
> > Sarah Van Oosterwijck
> > Assistive Technology Trainer
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
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