[bksvol-discuss] Re: tabs bullets and plank pages

  • From: "Gerald Hovas" <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:28:40 -0500


Have you considered converting to a .DOC file instead of to .RTF or leaving
it as .KES?  I don't know how K-1000 handles blank pages when converting to
.DOC, but you can't automatically assume it drops them because the process
should use a different conversion utility than the one which converts to
.RTF.  If the blank pages are retained, then that would be a compromise
between the .RTF and .KES formats since volunteers with Word, K-1000, and
OpenBook should all be able to access the file, and I would expect Word
Perfect users would be able to as well since Word allows for importing of
Word Perfect files.

I'm pretty sure I've seen bullets as part of garbage characters in the HTML
files that are unpacked from the BKS files, but I don't know of an example
off the top of my head.

How large is the book?  I'd consider validating it for you if it's not
extremely large.  I have another which I need to finish first, though.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sarah Van
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:46 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tabs bullets and plank pages

I am preparing to upload something that I really don't want messed up.  I
am concerned about several issues.

First, I didn't know about the Kurzweil issue that may cause blank pages to
disappear from RTFs when I edited the book.  Now I don't know of a very
easy way to go through the book to find the blank pages and insert
something like the page number or [picture].  I don't want the blank pages
to disappear because the page numbering is perfect and will be even without
DAISY tags since the first scanned page is actually page 1 in this case.
Does anyone have any ideas?  The only thing I can think of is to upload in
KES format, but that will limit who could work on it.

Second, the book contains useful tabs, which conversion will remove.  I
just don't know how many spaces to replace the tabs with.  I really am
discusted by that problem, since tabs should be a valid and recognized
character.  The problem is really bookshare's issue and it should be fixed
sometime during their improvement process.  For now i would just like a
number of spaces that would be most likely to work okay.

Third, has anyone ever seen a bullet in a DAISY or BRF file?  If anyone has
reason to believe that they do not come out correctly, can you give me a
suggestion of a character to use instead of the bullets?  Unfortunately
star will not work that well in this case.  There are too many used for
footnotes and I don't really want to give them a double purpose.

This book will most likely cause copyright questions, but I wrote an
extensive comment that i hope the validator can pass on to admin to get the
book pushed through the first time. :-)

The book is called "What Does the Bible Really Teach?"  And is really ment
to be like a textbook that answers specific Bible questions by explaining
illustrating, and providing large numbers of specific Bible verses to
support the reasoning presented.  To someone not used to the blabbing of
Bible citations by a synthesizer it could be annoying. :-)  I hope they
don't come out strangely after translation.
Each page has a number of numbered paragraphs and corresponding questions
at the bottom of the page.  Not perfect for BRF format, but I really
couldn't do anything about it within this lifetime.

Please write if you have any suggestions or if you would be willing to be a
careful validator for this book.  With careful I only mean putting it
through as little conversion or other steps that might introduce errors as
possible.  It shouldn't need much editing because I was about as careful as
I could be while reading it, and i also had help from my husband when I
came accross problem spots.  As always, I make no claims of perfection,
though. :-)

Sarah Van Oosterwijck
Assistive Technology Trainer

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