[bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
- From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:15:03 -0400
Hi E,
I don't know of any quick keystrokes for regulating fonts in K1000, but you
can select text, then go into the Edit menu and arrow up or down to Format.
In that submenu, you will find Paragraph and Font dialogue boxes. Hit enter
on Font, and tab through the settings. It will tell you the type of font,
whether it is bold or italics, or whether it is a mixture, and the size, and
whether underlining is enabled, in that order I believe. You just up or down
arrow to make changes. Hit enter when you're through. You don't need to tab
over to okay to effect changes.
My Pac Mate's software is a bit antiquated, but in mine, font regulation is
also under the Format menu in FS Edit. I get a dialogue box there that uses
arrow keys and tabs that also contains check boxes for font attributes for
selected text. I don't use it much, actually.
HTH
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:45 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
> Does anyone know how to "regulate fonts" using Kurzweil?
>
> What about using a braillenote or pacmate?
>
> Thanks.
>
> E.
>
>
> At 08:27 PM 6/2/2008, you wrote:
>>Hi Judy!
>>
>> Thank you for confirming for us that files whose fonts have not
>> been regulated retain those varied fonts, even after daisy conversion.
>> Now, even though Bookshare doesn't require regulating fonts of its
>> volunteers, we do know now that in order to provide the clearest and
>> most comfortable reading experience for all Bookshare members, regulating
>> the font helps a lot. We can choose to take the time to regulate font
>> or not as volunteers. Thanks again for the clarification.
>>
>>Mayrie
>>
>> At 04:13 PM 6/2/2008, you wrote:
>>>Mayrie is correct - it's been my experience that fonts end up being a
>>>bazillion different sizes when books are scanned. As a sighted but
>>>disabled Bookshare member, this makes books that are in the collection
>>>very difficult to read when I unpack a Daisy file and use the html for
>>>visual reading. When I download a book to validate - and I've validated
>>>close to 100 books now - almost all of the .rft files have widely varying
>>>fonts throughout the scans, unless the individual who scanned the book
>>>has checked and and standardized the fonting.
>>>
>>>As Mayrie said, it's not necessary for submissions to address this.
>>>However, it literally takes only about 30 seconds using Word, and a few
>>>keystrokes, to change an entire book to have one consistent font
>>>throughout. smile.
>>>
>>>As a sighted Bookshare member, I can tell you that it puts an additional
>>>barrier into reading, and it makes books on Bookshare less accessible to
>>>have books with wildly variable fonting.
>>>
>>>The best way I can describe it as a visual experience in equivalent
>>>listening terms is that it's as if narrator varies from whispering to
>>>shrieking and every noise level in-between, going back and forth
>>>constantly in volume and emphasis with no rhyme or reason. smile.
>>>
>>>I usually download, back-translate and read braille books from the
>>>collection. That way I get a file that I find much more readable, even
>>>though it loses appropriate fonting and formatting that a well-done Daisy
>>>file preserves, formatting that enhances the reading experience for the
>>>visual reader.
>>>
>>>The Daisy conversion does preserve the fonting, by the way, in my
>>>experience based on the books I've downloaded that are in the collection.
>>>I recall reading somewhere that Daisy conversion has difficulties with
>>>teeny fonts and massively huge fonts - but I can't speak to that
>>>specifically, as I've never been involved with a Daisy conversion from
>>>the technical side.
>>>
>>>Judy s.
>>>
>>>Mayrie ReNae wrote:
>>>>Hi Nancy,
>>>> I don't know if regulating the font is a common practice. I
>>>> just know that I do it so that people reading with their eyes won't
>>>> have to read a book with a bazillion different font sizes in it. I
>>>> have been told that without regulating the font that Kurzweil isn't
>>>> consistent throughout a given book at all. Drives sighted readers
>>>> nuts, and takes me less than thirty seconds in Microsoft Word to change
>>>> it to all one font when protecting page numbers and changing em dashes
>>>> to double hyphens.
>>>>Mayrie
>>>>At 04:09 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>Trying again,
>>>>>
>>>>>Is it a common practice to change the size font a book has if you are
>>>>>the scanner?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Nancy
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy"
>>>>><popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:07 AM
>>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not positive that I understand your question, but I'll try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One can change font size and type in Word, and I do for chapter titles
>>>>>>and places where the print book has enlarged type, e.g., for store
>>>>>>signs in one book I validated, or newspaper headlines in another. But
>>>>>>my scanner doesn't convert to the exact fonts that are in the book.
>>>>>>For some of the validations I've done I've had to make enlarged fonts
>>>>>>smaller because they don't fit on the page. I was told in the past
>>>>>>that some don't fit properly on people's Braille readers or whatever
>>>>>>they're using to read, also. I seem to remember, and hope I'm not
>>>>>>wrong, that a size of 36 was the largest that would fit. Of course
>>>>>>that would depend on the font style, because some are smaller than
>>>>>>others, but to be safe I don't enlarge anything more than 36.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>G.Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: NANCY M HILL <girlyscream@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
>>>>>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 10:36 PM
>>>>>>>Is there a place where you can adjust font size? Would you
>>>>>>>adjust the font
>>>>>>>size for any reason other to help you proof or validate the
>>>>>>>book if you had
>>>>>>>useable vision?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nancy
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Goldring Tajalli
>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:12 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Curtis,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> K1000 scans the print of the book at the size of the
>>>>>>>print - which I
>>>>>>>cannot read most of the time. When I first learned the
>>>>>>>program, the Kurzweil
>>>>>>>tech showed me how to set the size by magnification and I
>>>>>>>did not even
>>>>>>>notice the font or font size. Magnification does not change
>>>>>>>anything at base
>>>>>>>except what the scanner sees. It does not effect the final
>>>>>>>size which is
>>>>>>>what the book is in. All the corrections show up within the
>>>>>>>original text in
>>>>>>>the places I put them. If there is a problem, I ask that
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>editor/validator double check but most of the books I have
>>>>>>>submitted have
>>>>>>>been accepted as they were without going to step 2. If I am
>>>>>>>really worried,
>>>>>>>I make a note to have something checked for me so it will
>>>>>>>go to step 2. If
>>>>>>>not, I down load it when it is in the collection and double
>>>>>>>check there.
>>>>>>>Only once have I requested that the final form was bad
>>>>>>>enough that I want it
>>>>>>>sent back for rescanning and will be doing that soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amy
>>>>>>> oms m
>>>>>>> < br>If it be now, 'tis not to come,
>>>>>>> If it be not to come, it will be now,
>>>>>>> If it be not now, yet it will come.
>>>>>>> The readiness is all.
>>>>>>> William Shakespeare.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------- Original message from Curtis Delzer
>>>>>>><curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>: --------------
>>>>>>> Fascinating, every book I've read using K1000, for
>>>>>>>some reason, I did
>>>>>>>not pay attention at all to the font or it's size. hmm!
>>>>>>>:) Maybe I'm getting
>>>>>>>... what? forgetful? or .. what? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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