[bksvol-discuss] Re: font size

  • From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:13:32 -0500

Mayrie is correct - it's been my experience that fonts end up being a bazillion different sizes when books are scanned. As a sighted but disabled Bookshare member, this makes books that are in the collection very difficult to read when I unpack a Daisy file and use the html for visual reading. When I download a book to validate - and I've validated close to 100 books now - almost all of the .rft files have widely varying fonts throughout the scans, unless the individual who scanned the book has checked and and standardized the fonting.


As Mayrie said, it's not necessary for submissions to address this. However, it literally takes only about 30 seconds using Word, and a few keystrokes, to change an entire book to have one consistent font throughout. smile.

As a sighted Bookshare member, I can tell you that it puts an additional barrier into reading, and it makes books on Bookshare less accessible to have books with wildly variable fonting.

The best way I can describe it as a visual experience in equivalent listening terms is that it's as if narrator varies from whispering to shrieking and every noise level in-between, going back and forth constantly in volume and emphasis with no rhyme or reason. smile.

I usually download, back-translate and read braille books from the collection. That way I get a file that I find much more readable, even though it loses appropriate fonting and formatting that a well-done Daisy file preserves, formatting that enhances the reading experience for the visual reader.

The Daisy conversion does preserve the fonting, by the way, in my experience based on the books I've downloaded that are in the collection. I recall reading somewhere that Daisy conversion has difficulties with teeny fonts and massively huge fonts - but I can't speak to that specifically, as I've never been involved with a Daisy conversion from the technical side.

Judy s.

Mayrie ReNae wrote:
Hi Nancy,

I don't know if regulating the font is a common practice. I just know that I do it so that people reading with their eyes won't have to read a book with a bazillion different font sizes in it. I have been told that without regulating the font that Kurzweil isn't consistent throughout a given book at all. Drives sighted readers nuts, and takes me less than thirty seconds in Microsoft Word to change it to all one font when protecting page numbers and changing em dashes to double hyphens.

Mayrie

At 04:09 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote:
Trying again,

Is it a common practice to change the size font a book has if you are the scanner?

Thanks,
Nancy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:07 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size


I'm not positive that I understand your question, but I'll try.

One can change font size and type in Word, and I do for chapter titles and places where the print book has enlarged type, e.g., for store signs in one book I validated, or newspaper headlines in another. But my scanner doesn't convert to the exact fonts that are in the book. For some of the validations I've done I've had to make enlarged fonts smaller because they don't fit on the page. I was told in the past that some don't fit properly on people's Braille readers or whatever they're using to read, also. I seem to remember, and hope I'm not wrong, that a size of 36 was the largest that would fit. Of course that would depend on the font style, because some are smaller than others, but to be safe I don't enlarge anything more than 36.

G.Cindy

From: NANCY M HILL <girlyscream@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 10:36 PM
Is there a place where you can adjust font size?  Would you
adjust the font
size for any reason other to help you proof or validate the
book if you had
useable vision?

Nancy
  ----- Original Message -----   From: Amy Goldring Tajalli
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:12 AM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size


   Curtis,

  K1000 scans the print of the book at the size of the
print - which I
cannot read most of the time. When I first learned the
program, the Kurzweil
tech showed me how to set the size by magnification and I
did not even
notice the font or font size. Magnification does not change
anything at base
except what the scanner sees. It does not effect the final
size which is
what the book is in. All the corrections show up within the
original text in
the places  I put them. If there is a problem, I ask that
the
editor/validator  double check but most of the books I have
submitted have
been accepted as they were without going to step 2. If I am
really worried,
I make a note to have something checked for me so it will
go to step 2. If
not, I down load it when it is in the collection and double
check there.
Only once have I requested that the final form was bad
enough that I want it
sent back for rescanning and will be doing that soon.

  Amy
  oms m
  < br>If it be now, 'tis not to come,
  If it be not to come, it will be now,
  If it be not now, yet it will come.
  The  readiness is all.
  William Shakespeare.

    -------------- Original message from Curtis Delzer
<curtis@xxxxxxxxxx>: --------------
    Fascinating, every book I've read using K1000, for
some reason, I did
not pay attention at all to the font or it's size. hmm!
:) Maybe I'm getting
... what? forgetful? or .. what? :)

    Curtis Delzer



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