[bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
- From: "Amy Goldring Tajalli" <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:24:08 +0000
Evan & Lissi,
From the very beginning when I down loaded the trial K1000 the then tech set it up for me and as Times New Roman was easier for me to see at a double or triple magnification we set it for that and he assured me that it would return to the original when I uploaded it. He said it was changed for my reading and writing purposes but that kes would know the correct size and font and as far as I can tell that is exactly what has happened. I no longer feel the need to change most fonts and am only careful to make sure not to use italics or bold print unless that is what is in the original. I have, however, noticed a number of books I have downloaded from the Bookshare collection are unnecessarily in bold print and I have to change that because it is harmful to my eyes and conducive to creating migraines. Where I have access to the originals, I often find that they are not in bold font in some sections or even most of the text. Is it possible that something a
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he Bookshare programs converts them to bold for reasons unbeknownst to the original scanner or even to the final editor.
Amy
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-------------- Original message from "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: --------------
> No, I do not believe that it is a common practice to change the font the OCR
> software determines the text to be in for people who cannot see the screen.
> For K1000, at least, most of the time, the font size and type is close to
> that of the original in the book, unless it is really odd or extremely huge
> or small. This is not to say that there aren't exceptions, and some small
> variation from one chapter heading or page number to another in my
> experience; but it does try to replicate the font size and type if it can.
>
> I am not talking about any other OCR software, since some may be less
> reliable at doing this replication, and K1000 is not completely reliable at
> doing it anyhow, or some people may be using older versions of the OCR
> engines that are used in K1000, which would be even less reliable than the
> current best.
>
> Besides, I don't think most people with little or no vision, such as myself,
> think about the font very much. After all, braille comes in only one font,
> except for jumbo braille, which is hardly ever used; and those who don't
> read braille are using voice, which, of course, has no font at all. And a
> sighted person can check the font size and type without any work at all,
> simply while reading along. Someone who can't see the screen has to do that
> using keyboard commands, or by going into a menu. So it can be quite a lot
> of work to check the font size and type for things that may need checking
> throughout an entire book.
>
> True, K1000, and perhaps OpenBook, I forget, can tell you by changes in
> voice whether something is bolded or italicized. But as far as I know, there
> are no such settings that can tell you font size without your having to do
> some extra labor that a sighted person doesn't have to do.
>
> It should be safe to let K1000 decide on the font size and type. There may
> be some inaccuracy, of course, it being a mindless machine after all, but I
> don't think it's worth fretting over, especially considering how much extra
> time it can take for those of us who can't see a screen.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "NANCY M HILL"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 7:09 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
>
>
> > Trying again,
> >
> > Is it a common practice to change the size font a book has if you are the
> > scanner?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nancy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Grandma Cindy"
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:07 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
> >
> >
> >> I'm not positive that I understand your question, but I'll try.
> >>
> >> One can change font size and type in Word, and I do for chapter titles
> >> and places where the print book has enlarged type, e.g., for store signs
> >> in one book I validated, or newspaper headlines in another. But my
> >> scanner doesn't convert to the exact fonts that are in the book. For some
> >> of the validations I've done I've had to make enlarged fonts smaller
> >> because they don't fit on the page. I was told in the past that some
> >> don't fit properly on people's Braille readers or whatever they're using
> >> to read, also. I seem to remember, and hope I'm not wrong, that a size of
> >> 36 was the largest that would fit. Of course that would depend on the
> >> font style, because some are smaller than others, but to be safe I don't
> >> enlarge anything more than 36.
> >>
> >> G.Cindy
> >>
> >>> From: NANCY M HILL
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
> >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Date: Sunday, June 1, 2008, 10:36 PM
> >>> Is there a place where you can adjust font size? Would you
> >>> adjust the font
> >>> size for any reason other to help you proof or validate the
> >>> book if you had
> >>> useable vision?
> >>>
> >>> Nancy
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Amy Goldring Tajalli
> >>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:12 AM
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: font size
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Curtis,
> >>>
> >>> K1000 scans the print of the book at the size of the
> >>> print - which I
> >>> cannot read most of the time. When I first learned the
> >>> program, the Kurzweil
> >>> tech showed me how to set the size by magnification and I
> >>> did not even
> >>> notice the font or font size. Magnification does not change
> >>> anything at base
> >>> except what the scanner sees. It does not effect the final
> >>> size which is
> >>> what the book is in. All the corrections show up within the
> >>> original text in
> >>> the places I put them. If there is a problem, I ask that
> >>> the
> >>> editor/validator double check but most of the books I have
> >>> submitted have
> >>> been accepted as they were without going to step 2. If I am
> >>> really worried,
> >>> I make a note to have something checked for me so it will
> >>> go to step 2. If
> >>> not, I down load it when it is in the collection and double
> >>> check there.
> >>> Only once have I requested that the final form was bad
> >>> enough that I want it
> >>> sent back for rescanning and will be doing that soon.
> >>>
> >>> Amy
> >>> oms m
> >>> < br>If it be now, 'tis not to come,
> >>> If it be not to come, it will be now,
> >>> If it be not now, yet it will come.
> >>> The readiness is all.
> >>> William Shakespeare.
> >>>
> >>> -------------- Original message from Curtis Delzer
> >>> : --------------
> >>>
> >>> Fascinating, every book I've read using K1000, for
> >>> some reason, I did
> >>> not pay attention at all to the font or it's size. hmm!
> >>> :) Maybe I'm getting
> >>> ... what? forgetful? or .. what? :)
> >>>
> >>> Curtis Delzer
> >>
> >>
> >>
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