And Vick, how come some of us, have been submitting Kurzweil .rtfs for years without any ill effects, nock on wood. But I haven't had a problem with one yet. Not caused by Kurzweil, though Kelly had an interesting one from me that was caused by the Braillenote and Kurzweil which was an interesting little bug, keeping Pulsedata updated on the situation. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com Never let mistakes or wrong directions, of which every man falls into many, discourage you. There is precious instruction to be got by finding where we were wrong. -- Thomas Carlyle