Hey guys, Sorry to kep hammering out question about page breaks and page numbering, but this the biggest thing that is new to me. I want to do it right so here i go again. How do you guys know if the page numbers you are seeing are at the tip of the page or the bottom of the page. this file I am working on was a doc file and i converted it to an rtf file. Therefore, it has page numbers but not page breaks. SO i am having to add them. The first page number which is for instance VIII is on the third page so I am unsure if it is at the top or bottom of the page. Any Help would be appreciated with that. Lastly, Like I said, the first page number is Viii, what do you do about the few pages before that that don't have page numbers or page breaks. Maybe this will be my last question about page breaks and page numbering! thanks Andrew