[amayausers] Re: Needle Breaks
- From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:38:12 -0700
Mike,
That was just one possible explanation why/how a presser foot could get bent
or deformed. The back upper shank of the presser foot shaft can hit a hoop
edge, if for instance the hoop is not properly secured in the clips and it
vibrates off center. If the hoop limits have been disabled and the wrong
size hoop has been selected could be another cause........mechanical
defects, etc...but just sewing caps can gradually put a slight bend in the
presser foot shaft that will need for it to be adjusted back to its normal
position.......just a couple more of my 2 cents worth...... ;-))
Rod Springer
Melco Trained Tech
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Garber" <agraphic2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 12:54 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle Breaks
> Thanks Rod,
> I am not getting the needle breaks on my other machine with the same hat
> and design.
> Something must be off and I suspect the presser foot.
> I will try to bend it very carefully....if it breaks I can send my work
> to you to do?
>
> Mike
>
> Rod or Sharon wrote:
>
>>Mike ,
>>Yes, the presser foot being out of alignment can cause some grief in
>>thread/needle breaking . When sewing a design low and close to the bill
>>of
>>the cap ( some caps ), the presser foot will slide down the seam on the
>>down
>>stroke and contact the backside of the needle. This would be a surefire
>>needle break situation. If the cap is sloped enough, continued sewing can
>>evenually or immediately cause the presser foot to become deformed.
>>
>>You can carefully apply pressure and bend the presser foot so that it not
>>only is centered but has adequate clearance to the back of the needle, did
>>I
>>mention to do this carefully?? Apply just enough pressure to get the job
>>done and no more.
>>
>>Rod Springer
>>Melco Trained Tech
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Mike Garber" <agraphic2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:34 AM
>>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle Breaks
>>
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>>>Ahhh, wings. I just didn't remember what they were called. They look
>>>OK.
>>>Speaking of presser foots, this one is not lined up exactly with the
>>>needle, its off to the left.
>>>I wonder if that would cause needle breaks?
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>HK Acree wrote:
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>>>>Mike,
>>>>Go to your Amaya Technical Manual. Then go to Wide Angle Cap Frame
>>>>Issues,
>>>>once there look at the Cap Supports section. It gives you a good picture
>>>>of
>>>>the "wings". If you have the large ones on you may have better luck with
>>>>the
>>>>smaller ones or maybe the other way around. Try to get them adjusted so
>>>>they
>>>>don't influence the top of the cap by pulling or causing it to stretch.
>>>>
>>>>Herb
>>>>Royal Embroidery
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Mike Garber" <agraphic2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:50 AM
>>>>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle Breaks
>>>>
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>>>>>Herb,
>>>>>I think your .02 sounds good to me. What are these wings you speak of?
>>>>>I will try and stabilize the hat more. I don't think I had the sides
>>>>>clipped in assuming the structure of the hat would be enough to keep it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>from moving. It also was flagging a little up and down.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have to sew the same design on a unstructured hat and I don't imagine
>>>>>I will have the same problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>HK Acree wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>Mike,
>>>>>>My first thought on this is that your wings may need adjusting. It
>>>>>>sounds
>>>>>>like as the cap is sewing you are beginning to pull the fabric and as
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>needle penetrates it is also being pulled causing it to strike the
>>>>>>plate.
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>sewed some Flex Fits a while back and swore them off as far as trying
>>>>>>them
>>>>>>again any time soon. They are way to stretchy for my liking. Hooping
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>pain and my quality was junk. Trace your design and watch closely as
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>gets
>>>>>>to the area you are having problems with. If you see any movement in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>fabric try to adjust your wings to eliminate it. Also look to be sure
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>bill is not contacting the back of the needle carriage. This will also
>>>>>>cause
>>>>>>the fabric to move and cause problems. When I hoop structured caps I
>>>>>>make
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>a habit to bend the bill back towards the top a bit before I hoop it,
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>find
>>>>>>this lets the cap relax and lay closer to the needle plate, especially
>>>>>>near
>>>>>>the bill of the cap. This may or may not help you to get the fabric
>>>>>>down
>>>>>>close to the plate. Go forward in your stitch count to the place where
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>are having problems and check how far the material presses down before
>>>>>>hitting the plate. If it is more than about 1/8 inch it is too much.
>>>>>>(In
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>humble opinion). When you hoop it try to find a way to get this part
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>cap to lay down some more, a little tug here or there? One thing I
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>try
>>>>>>would be full backing. My thought here is that as stretchy as these
>>>>>>are,
>>>>>>"maybe", if I get the sides stabilized so they wont stretch around as
>>>>>>much
>>>>>>it may keep the front from wiggling as well. I may also be out of my
>>>>>>mind
>>>>>>but there's my $.02 worth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Herb
>>>>>>Royal Embroidery
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: "Mike Garber" <agraphic2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: "amayausers list" <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:31 AM
>>>>>>Subject: [amayausers] Needle Breaks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>I digitized a hat logo that is just text. I'm sewing a Flex Fit
>>>>>>>Structured hat with 75/11 sharp needles.
>>>>>>>The stitch length is about 1/4" along the top of the hat (text is 2"
>>>>>>>tall and hooped as close to the bottom as possible).
>>>>>>>I keep getting needle breaks on the top of the design. Raised needle
>>>>>>>plate is in and pressure foot is adjusted 2.5 clicks from top. No
>>>>>>>backing.
>>>>>>>Material thickness is 13. I did get a break on the fill outline
>>>>>>>under
>>>>>>>the text but I suspect the needle was already bent from the longer
>>>>>>>stitches on the text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am going to try it on the other machine tonight to see if I still
>>>>>>>get
>>>>>>>breaks unless anyone can tell if I'm doing something wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Mike
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