[amayausers] Re: Needle Breaks

  • From: Mike Garber <agraphic2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:54:55 -0700

Thanks Rod,
I am not getting the needle breaks on my other machine with the same hat 
and design.
Something must be off and I suspect the presser foot.
I will try to bend it very carefully....if it breaks I can send my work 
to you to do?

Mike

Rod or Sharon wrote:

>Mike ,
>Yes, the presser foot being out of alignment can cause some grief in 
>thread/needle breaking .  When sewing a design low and close to the bill of 
>the cap ( some caps ), the presser foot will slide down the seam on the down 
>stroke and contact the backside of the needle. This would be a surefire 
>needle break situation. If the cap is sloped enough, continued sewing can 
>evenually or immediately cause the presser foot to become deformed.
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>You can carefully apply pressure and bend the presser foot so that it not 
>only is centered but has adequate clearance to the back of the needle, did I 
>mention to do this carefully?? Apply just enough pressure to get the job 
>done and no more.
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>Rod Springer
>Melco Trained Tech
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike Garber" <agraphic2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:34 AM
>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle Breaks
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>>Ahhh, wings.  I just didn't remember what they were called.  They look OK.
>>Speaking of presser foots, this one is not lined up exactly with the
>>needle, its off to the left.
>>I wonder if that would cause needle breaks?
>>Mike
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>>HK Acree wrote:
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>>>Mike,
>>>Go to your Amaya Technical Manual. Then go to Wide Angle Cap Frame Issues,
>>>once there look at the Cap Supports section. It gives you a good picture 
>>>of
>>>the "wings". If you have the large ones on you may have better luck with 
>>>the
>>>smaller ones or maybe the other way around. Try to get them adjusted so 
>>>they
>>>don't influence the top of the cap by pulling or causing it to stretch.
>>>
>>>Herb
>>>Royal Embroidery
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Mike Garber" <agraphic2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:50 AM
>>>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle Breaks
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>>>>Herb,
>>>>I think your .02 sounds good to me.  What are these wings you speak of?
>>>>I will try and stabilize the hat more.  I don't think I had the sides
>>>>clipped in assuming the structure of the hat would be enough to keep it
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>>>>from moving.  It also was flagging a little up and down.
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>>>>I have to sew the same design on a unstructured hat and I don't imagine
>>>>I will have the same problems.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
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>>>>HK Acree wrote:
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>>>>>Mike,
>>>>>My first thought on this is that your wings may need adjusting. It 
>>>>>sounds
>>>>>like as the cap is sewing you are beginning to pull the fabric and as 
>>>>>the
>>>>>needle penetrates it is also being pulled causing it to strike the 
>>>>>plate.
>>>>>I
>>>>>sewed some Flex Fits a while back and swore them off as far as trying 
>>>>>them
>>>>>again any time soon. They are way to stretchy for my liking. Hooping was 
>>>>>a
>>>>>pain and my quality was junk. Trace your design and watch closely as it
>>>>>gets
>>>>>to the area you are having problems with. If you see any movement in the
>>>>>fabric try to adjust your wings to eliminate it. Also look to be sure 
>>>>>the
>>>>>bill is not contacting the back of the needle carriage. This will also
>>>>>cause
>>>>>the fabric to move and cause problems. When I hoop structured caps I 
>>>>>make
>>>>>it
>>>>>a habit to bend the bill back towards the top a bit before I hoop it, I
>>>>>find
>>>>>this lets the cap relax and lay closer to the needle plate, especially
>>>>>near
>>>>>the bill of the cap. This may or may not help you to get the fabric down
>>>>>close to the plate. Go forward in your stitch count to the place where 
>>>>>you
>>>>>are having problems and check how far the material presses down before
>>>>>hitting the plate. If it is more than about 1/8 inch it is too much. (In
>>>>>my
>>>>>humble opinion). When you hoop it try to find a way to get this part of
>>>>>the
>>>>>cap to lay down some more, a little tug here or there? One thing I would
>>>>>try
>>>>>would be full backing. My thought here is that as stretchy as these are,
>>>>>"maybe", if I get the sides stabilized so they wont stretch around as 
>>>>>much
>>>>>it may keep the front from wiggling as well. I may also be out of my 
>>>>>mind
>>>>>but there's my $.02 worth.
>>>>>
>>>>>Herb
>>>>>Royal Embroidery
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>From: "Mike Garber" <agraphic2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: "amayausers list" <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:31 AM
>>>>>Subject: [amayausers] Needle Breaks
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>>>>>>I digitized a hat logo that is just text.  I'm sewing a Flex Fit
>>>>>>Structured hat with 75/11 sharp needles.
>>>>>>The stitch length is about 1/4" along the top of the hat (text is 2"
>>>>>>tall and hooped as close to the bottom as possible).
>>>>>>I keep getting needle breaks on the top of the design.  Raised needle
>>>>>>plate is in and pressure foot is adjusted 2.5 clicks from top.  No
>>>>>>backing.
>>>>>>Material thickness is 13.  I did get a break on the fill outline under
>>>>>>the text but I suspect the needle was already bent from the longer
>>>>>>stitches on the text.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am going to try it on the other machine tonight to see if I still get
>>>>>>breaks unless anyone can tell if I'm doing something wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Mike
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