[amayausers] Re: Metallic Thread
- From: <dsklar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:49:35 -0500 (CDT)
The cap is an Anvil 146 unstructured cap. The material feels like soft, medium
weight denim. The problem area was not near a seam. I started with thickness
set to 5 then went up to 8 and down to 3. The problem was in a fill area and
had as much problem with the underlay (Stitch length 24, density 20) as with
the actual fill stitches. The problem has to have something to do with the hat
and/or the backing. The backing (two layers) is 2 oz (TC2542000) tear away
from Melco.
I just ran it again on a different machine, using the same hat, same backing,
75/11 sharp needle, same spool of thread, MT 4, speed 800, on a different Amaya
with the Fastframe hat frame (did back rather than front of cap). Guess what?
No problems! Go figure! Maybe it just knew that I had to get the job out on
short deadline.
Thanks for the suggestions.
David Sklar
Ballyhoo!
Arlington, VA
>From: HK Acree <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Wed May 24 17:04:48 CDT 2006
>To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Metallic Thread
>What kind of cap? What material thickness? Lettering parameters?
>
>Herb
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <dsklar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:59 PM
>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Metallic Thread
>
>
>>I was using Organ DBXK5 needles. At one point I slowed the machine all the
>>way down to 300spm. It took longer between breaks, but I don't think there
>>were any more stitches!
>>
>> David
>> Ballyhoo!
>>
>>>From: HK Acree <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Date: Wed May 24 16:28:52 CDT 2006
>>>To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Metallic Thread
>>
>>>I have run metallic on caps very well. Use both Madeira and Arc. Densities
>>>need to be increased as the thread covers more area than 40 wt. Slow the
>>>machine down. I ran mine at 700 (Non-XT) No issues in 45,000 stitches.
>>>
>>>Herb
>>>Royal Embroidery
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Shuffletown Embroidery" <shuffemb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:10 PM
>>>Subject: [amayausers] Re: Metallic Thread
>>>
>>>
>>>>I use Organ needles all the time, but this metallic-thread needle from
>>>> Madeira, also a DBXK5, worked beautifully. If there is a metallic-thread
>>>> version of the Organ needle, I am not familiar with it.
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>> Mary Buckle
>>>> Shuffletown Embroidery
>>>> Charlotte, NC
>>>> 704-398-1273
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod or Sharon
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:56 PM
>>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Metallic Thread
>>>>
>>>> The Amaya was designed to use Organ needles and preferably the DBXK5.
>>>> It
>>>> also has a larger eye.
>>>> You will need to slow down your sewing speed to 1000 or under to stitch
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>> metallic threads. For caps use a sharp needle.
>>>> Sharon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Shuffletown Embroidery" <shuffemb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:34 PM
>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Metallic Thread
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>> I haven't done hats, so I am certainly not an expert, but I have had
>>>>> excellent results using a metallic needle from Madeira. The eye is
>>>>> bigger
>>>>> than the regular embroidery needles. Maybe the polos, tees and sweats
>>>>> are
>>>>> more forgiving than the caps, so the needle could be the solution.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Buckle
>>>>> Shuffletown Embroidery
>>>>> Charlotte, NC
>>>>> 704-398-1273
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>>>> dsklar@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:26 AM
>>>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Metallic Thread
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently had a job with 8 caps (unstructured), polos, tees, and
>>>>> sweats.
>>>>> All used the same logo. Parts of the logo were stitched using metallic
>>>>> thread. Everything went fine except for the hats. It took several
>>>>> hours
>>>>> to
>>>>> get the hats done. There was a thread break every few rows. It seemed
>>>>> to
>>>>> make no difference whether it was stitching the underlay (density
>>>>> irrelevent) or the actual fill. The polos, tees sweats sewed without
>>>>> problem using a 75/11BP. For the unstructured caps I used two layers
>>>>> of
>>>>> medium tearaway backing. I started with a 75/11 sharp went up to 80/12
>>>>> sharp (don't have bigger), changed needles (to new ones and location on
>>>>> the
>>>>> machine), but could not make any difference. The problem area is not
>>>>> on
>>>>> or
>>>>> near a seam. I played with the material thickness as well. The cap
>>>>> was
>>>>> on
>>>>> a WACF. I have done plenty of caps. I have done some metallic before.
>>>>> But
>>>>> this is the first metallic on caps. Any thoughts on what the problem
>>>>> was?
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Sklar
>>>>> Ballyhoo!
>>>>> Arlington, VA
>>>>>
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