I have been reading all the stuff on hat back problems and just had to throw my hat in the ring. Did some hat backs recently and I used the 15cm hoop. Made a tool that clamps to my desk to hold the outer ring in place. I place a piece of tear away on the ring, I open the hat back, let it lay out flat with only about 1/2 the opening of the hoop covered, position the hat and press, pretty much ready to go.. I don't try to get the whole hat in the hoop. I also took a laundry marker and drew lines on all my hoops at 1/2" intervals. Makes lining up a breeze. Larry Butler ice_man21@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >12cm hoop. >I can't seem to get it hooped with a 15cm. I don't want to go back to >the fast frame. Can a hat back be hooped with a 15cm hoop? > > > > > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 6/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 6/22/2005