One of the most helpful things I have done is to draw, with a sharpie, marks at the 12, 3, 6 and 9 o'clock pints on my hoops. Never thought of graduations on them. Kelly -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of ice_man21 Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:57 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Hat backs I also took a laundry marker and drew lines on all my hoops at 1/2" intervals. Makes lining up a breeze. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 6/22/2005