[amayausers] Re: Needle rotation???
- From: "Jean A. Allen" <jaa1943@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:13:09 -0700 (PDT)
My tech told me the thread tails at beginning of sewing were due
to the relation between how the needle takes up the thread and
the cutters???? Don't know if it jibes with any theory but I do
know the thread tails went away when I changed to no more than 5
degrees.
Jean Allen
--- "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Roland,
> I'm sorry you're having so much trouble with thread breaks
> however there
> are a good number of reasons that causes the thread to break.
> I also don't
> understand the needle rotation having anything to do with the
> length of
> thread tails. The theory doesn't support that comment.
> But anyway, if you find that rotating your needles minimizes
> thread breaks,
> by all means, run them that way. But if the chance presents
> itself, that
> should be pointed out to a tech who can look over your machine
> and figure
> out where the problem is stemming from.
> Whether it be 5 or 15 degrees, one must not overdo it with
> the slight
> rotation of the needle. Hence the word "slight". Everything
> under the
> needle plate is happening on a very small scale.
> Although I can remember when we first started out, I even
> tried sewing with
> the needles on a 45 degree angle just to see what would
> happen. Didn't
> work.
> Ed
>
> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> E.M. Broidery
> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> New Orleans, La. 70056
> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roland R.
> Irish III
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:33 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle rotation???
>
>
> Both the service tech that came here to test the machine, and
> John in New
> Jersey, showed us that 'straight' needle is not
> preferable-that they need
> the slight 'angle' or counterclockwise rotation. Wife agrees
> with me that
> they both said FIFTEEN degrees but no one ever actually sat
> down and
> measured it...my eyeball says if 'straight' is 6:00, then the
> angle they
> showed us (and we've used it for a year) is 5:00. Now that I
> know about what
> causes the 'tail' I'm going to watch out for over angle.
> Setting any of them
> straight is immediate thread breaks and unraveling, doesn't
> matter sharp or
> ball.
> Roland
>
> > From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:23:45 -0500
> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Needle rotation???
> >
> > Roland,
> > Wise men say, and this is for all embroidery machines, that
> the needle
> > should be installed in the needle clamp so that the eye of
> the needle is
> > straight front to back. It should be perpendicular to the
> rotary hook
> point
> > as the hook spins around to grab the thread passing through
> the needle
> eye.
> > Very similar to the child riding the Merry Go Round horse
> reaching out to
> > grab the big brass ring as he/she goes around (something I
> once saw in a
> 3D
> > movie at Disney World).
> > The only reason you would choose to rotate your needle so
> that the eye of
> > the needle would be offset by 5 degrees or so is to
> compensate for thread
> > that has entirely too many twists in it. Meaning that, as
> the thread
> tends
> > to relax from being pulled straight as the needle begins
> it's upstroke,
> the
> > thread would then twist slightly to the right (due to the
> standard cone
> > wrapping direction) behind the needle and just out of
> position to be
> caught
> > by the rotary hook point. What you would experience would
> be intermittent
> > missed stitches and then possibly thread breaks due to an
> excess of top
> > thread with no where to go, and only on those needles with
> the twisty type
> > thread.
> > I was recently working with some rayon thread from Madeira
> that was more
> > curly than not. Although everything was sewing fine so we
> left the
> needles
> > in their original positions.
> > You would never want to turn your needle to the left unless
> your thread
> > spool was wound backwards. (I have seen some out there).
> > Also, I believe 5 degrees to the right is maximum that is
> recommended.
> > Very slight indeed!
> > Ed
> >
> > Ed & Maralien Orantes
> > E.M. Broidery
> > 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> > New Orleans, La. 70056
> > 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roland
> R. Irish III
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:14 AM
> > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: thread breaks - help
> >
> >
> > How about the angle the needle is 'turned' in the shaft?
> I've had the same
> > problem (and now pretty much refuse to embroider on
> 'teeshirt'
> material-just
> > takes too much work) and after checking everything you
> mention, I find my
> > wife (who does most of the setup) isn't turning a new needle
> to get the 15
> > degree or so angle counterclockwise. Also, a tendency to
> have the plate
> just
> > a hair to the left of dead center. Once I reset the needle
> and set the
> plate
> > back to the right, usually that stops it!
> > Another similar problem was fixed when we started replacing
> the top
> rollers
> > at the 2 million stitch mark-worst thread breaks were
> happening on the
> > rollers with the most wear. Probably a combination of all 3
> things but
> > changing it helped!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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