[access-uk] Re: xp network problem
- From: "Keith Barrett" <keith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:14:01 -0000
Hi George,
Not sure where to go now. Yes, it has seen an ethernet device which it
does not recognize. It says in device manager that the device is
unknown and it has no drivers.
If I tell it to get a driver, it wants to go on line, which of course, it
cannot
do. I tryed showing it the intel drivers and it did not want to know them
and I tryed telling it to look in windows and that was not good either.
This is all possible because of the 9 year old, Charlotte but it is costing
me dearly in bribes. I could have got a new computer for less.
So, I wonder what drivers I need? I cannot let it find them as I need to
go online with the other drive and transfer what I download via cd.
On 3 Jan 2005 at 18:54, George Bell wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> You bet. And it sounds like you didn't read the bit about
> preserving your settings, but not to worry.
>
> O.K. You are clearly making progress. It has seen an
> Ethernet device. Now it needs to be told what to do with
> it.
>
> Do you reckon you can now manage to download the Ethernet
> drivers and install them? Should be a walk in the park
> compared to what you've just done.
>
> By the way, did you let that wee lassie of yours help you?
> If you did, she deserves a really big treat - and if you
> don't get her one, I'll personally come down and demobilise
> your system!! (Smile)
>
> George.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith
> Barrett
> > Sent: 03 January 2005 18:32
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi George,
> >
> > That was a bit frightening.
> >
> > I think we have upgraded the bios now.
> >
> > Only slight reservation is that when the system restarted,
>
> > some of the bios settings were lost and it would not find
> the
> > hard drive.
> >
> > So, we went in to the bios and, when we finally got it
> booted
> > got a message to say that the upgrade was successful.
> >
> > Unfortunately, though, still no network connection.
> >
> > Now, in devicemanager other devices there is an ethernet
> > device, type unknown no drivers.
> >
> > It has attempted to establish a connection it calls 1394
> > which does not work, selecting the repair options gives
> the
> > message that it could not varify an ip address.
> >
> > Using ipconfig returns no ip address.
> >
> > Removing the network cable does not bring up a message in
> the
> > sys tray that the cable is unplugged.
> >
> > I think that the card is not being recognized or even seen
> by xp.
> >
> > I did try to remove the connection that it had tryed to
> > create in order to start again but it will not be deleted
> as
> > it claims to be active.
> >
> > So, any ideas before I find a big hammer?
> >
> >
> > On 3 Jan 2005 at 0:00, George Bell wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Keith,
> > >
> > > Go to
> http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/bz_bios.htm
> > > which should be the BIOS details for your MOBO. Please
> > double check
> > > that the model number given there is absolutely 110 per
> > cent correct.
> > >
> > > Read up very carefully on the three "How do I use..."
> > > options, and decide which of the first two you wish to
> use.
> > > The second option is probably the best and safest.
> > >
> > > You choice is going to very much depend on said 9 year
> old
> > lady. It's
> > > a very big responsibility for such young shoulders.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > George.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith
> Barrett
> > > Sent: 02 January 2005 23:50
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi George,
> > >
> > > Thanks for this and sorry for the late reply I did not
> notice your
> > > message among all the excitement.
> > >
> > > So, how does one go about updating the bios?
> > >
> > > I presume that there must have been problems with this
> > board as this
> > > seems a large number of updates.
> > >
> > > If I can work out how to do it, I will see if I can
> bribe my
> > > 9 year old to lend me her eyes although it is the wrong
> side of
> > > chrismas and I do not have much to bargain with.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2 Jan 2005 at 23:06, George Bell wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Keith,
> > > >
> > > > Looking at http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/
> and
> > > specifically
> > > > at the BIOS, are you aware that between April 2003,
> and
> > > 1st December
> > > > 2004, there have been no fewer than
> > > > 33 BIOS upgrades!
> > > >
> > > > Quite honestly, I'd be very reluctant to go any
> further
> > > until you have
> > > > the very latest BIOS installed.
> > > >
> > > > Indeed I would more than suspect that if you were to
> > > contact Intel's
> > > > Technical Support people, they would ask you to do
> this
> > > before
> > > > proceeding.
> > > >
> > > > I know this is not an easy task to do, and that it
> will
> > > require
> > > > sighted help, but you do need to start on a level
> playing
> > > field.
> > > >
> > > > George.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith
> > > Barrett
> > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 22:43
> > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for that.
> > > >
> > > > I thought that 1930 connection may have been something
> to
> > > do with it.
> > > >
> > > > I have no other network devices listed in device
> manager.
> > > >
> > > > I have been getting the drivers from the intel web
> site.
> > > > The network card is an onboard one so I got all the
> > > software for the
> > > > mobo which is a d875pbz.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you think it could be that this board is not xp
> > > compatible?
> > > >
> > > > On 2 Jan 2005 at 22:12, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Start | run | cmd to get command prompt up. Doing
> > > > ipconfig won't do
> > > > > anything from run prompt because the command window
> will
> > > > open, the
> > > > > program will run, display the info, then exit
> cleanly,
> > > > causing the
> > > > > window to close only momentairly afterwards.
> > > > >
> > > > > The 1394 connection (I assume your message meant
> this)
> > > > would also
> > > > show
> > > > > up as a network device, it is a small port which
> sort of
> > > > resembles a
> > > > USB
> > > > > port but will have a edge to it (sorry for
> explaining
> > > this
> > > > poorly).
> > > > > It is for connecting cameras etc, and gives high
> data
> > > > transfer rates.
> > > > > You may not have a connector, as there may not be a
> port
> > > > on the case,
> > > > > so
> > > > the
> > > > > pinouts on the motherboard would be there, they just
> > > > wouldn't go to
> > > > > anything. On this machine which also has both
> ports, I
> > > > have two items
> > > > > in the network applet, that of the LAN (Realtek
> Gigabit
> > > > NIC) and a Via
> > > > > 1394 controler.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the drivers, where exactly are you getting
> these
> > > > from?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, just checking you are looking in the right
> place,
> > > > are you
> > > > > getting to device manager by going into control
> panel |
> > > > system |
> > > > > hardware | device manager?
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Keith Barrett
> > > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 20:22
> > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing in other devices.
> > > > >
> > > > > How do I get to the command prompt in xp?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you mean the run dialogue box?
> > > > >
> > > > > I get no response typing ipconfig in that box.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know what this 1934 network connection might
> be?
> > > > >
> > > > > Whenever I try to connect, I keep getting the
> message
> > > that
> > > > the 1934
> > > > > network connection was unable to varify any ip
> > > information
> > > > and nothing
> > > > > else.
> > > > >
> > > > > I did try to remove this connection in order to
> start
> > > > again but I
> > > > > think I have made things worse as now, when I go in
> to
> > > > i.e. it tells
> > > > > me I need to connect or work offline so it seems
> that it
> > > > is not even
> > > > > looking for a network connection.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I select any option to do with that connection,
> I
> > > get
> > > > an error
> > > > > message so I think I have really messed things up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another install of xp?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2 Jan 2005 at 16:10, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Keith,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What items do you have in the other devices
> category
> > > (if
> > > > anything)
> > > > > > in the device manager? What happens when you do
> an
> > > > ipconfig from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > command line (do you get an IP address in
> 192.168.x.x
> > > > range)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andrew.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of Keith Barrett
> > > > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 15:55
> > > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: [access-uk] xp network problem
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have now reinstalled xp.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In device manager, the only thing I can find is a
> 1934
> > > > network
> > > > > adapter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No mention of anything that resembles intel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, do I now install the intel driver package?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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