Hi Andrew, Many thanks. We have got it working at last. On 4 Jan 2005 at 10:03, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > Keith, > > Are you getting those drivers from the Intel site? Is it possible you can connect a modem to the machine and dial in via Plusnet's 0845 number? You could also get a cheap network card (around 5 pounds) from most places, and pop that in. > > Andrew. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Keith Barrett > Sent: Mon 03/01/2005 22:21 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem > > > > Hi Andrew, > > I have tryed to install the intel drivers. The install completed notmally > and I rebooted as directed. > > As I state in a message to George, I now have an ethernet device listed > in device manager other devices. This reports as type unknown and has > no drivers. > > When I tell it to install drivers for this device, it wants to try to connect > and, of course, the connection fails. > > I know that you say to ignore that 1934 connection but I just wonder if > something has happened in windows that is making it attempt to use > that to connect to the net or would that be just because there is no other > device? > > Just that in the properties it talks about using dymanic ip e.t.c. and it will > not let me do anything as it claims that the connection is trying to > connect. > > May be nothing but I thought it worth mention. > > Thanks > > > On 3 Jan 2005 at 19:07, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > You should have gone into the setup and restored defaults to get the > hdd > > back up and running. > > > > As I said, ignore 1394 as it refers to the firewire ports. > > > > Have you attempted to now install the Intel network drivers? > > > > Andrew. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf > > Of Keith Barrett > > Sent: 03 January 2005 18:32 > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem > > > > > > > > Hi George, > > > > That was a bit frightening. > > > > I think we have upgraded the bios now. > > > > Only slight reservation is that when the system restarted, some of the > > bios settings were lost and it would not find the hard drive. > > > > So, we went in to the bios and, when we finally got it booted got a > > message to say that the upgrade was successful. > > > > Unfortunately, though, still no network connection. > > > > Now, in devicemanager other devices there is an ethernet device, type > > unknown no drivers. > > > > It has attempted to establish a connection it calls 1394 which does not > > work, selecting the repair options gives the message that it could not > > varify an ip address. > > > > Using ipconfig returns no ip address. > > > > Removing the network cable does not bring up a message in the sys > tray > > that the cable is unplugged. > > > > I think that the card is not being recognized or even seen by xp. > > > > I did try to remove the connection that it had tryed to create in order > > to start again but it will not be deleted as it claims to be active. > > > > So, any ideas before I find a big hammer? > > > > > > On 3 Jan 2005 at 0:00, George Bell wrote: > > > > > Hi Keith, > > > > > > Go to http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/bz_bios.htm > > > which should be the BIOS details for your MOBO. Please double > check > > > that the model number given there is absolutely 110 per cent correct. > > > > > > Read up very carefully on the three "How do I use..." > > > options, and decide which of the first two you wish to use. > > > The second option is probably the best and safest. > > > > > > You choice is going to very much depend on said 9 year old lady. > It's > > > > > a very big responsibility for such young shoulders. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > George. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Barrett > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 23:50 > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem > > > > > > > > > Hi George, > > > > > > Thanks for this and sorry for the late reply I did not notice your > > > message among all the excitement. > > > > > > So, how does one go about updating the bios? > > > > > > I presume that there must have been problems with this board as > this > > > seems a large number of updates. > > > > > > If I can work out how to do it, I will see if I can bribe my > > > 9 year old to lend me her eyes although it is the wrong side of > > > chrismas and I do not have much to bargain with. > > > > > > > > > On 2 Jan 2005 at 23:06, George Bell wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Keith, > > > > > > > > Looking at http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/ and > > > specifically > > > > at the BIOS, are you aware that between April 2003, and > > > 1st December > > > > 2004, there have been no fewer than > > > > 33 BIOS upgrades! > > > > > > > > Quite honestly, I'd be very reluctant to go any further > > > until you have > > > > the very latest BIOS installed. > > > > > > > > Indeed I would more than suspect that if you were to > > > contact Intel's > > > > Technical Support people, they would ask you to do this > > > before > > > > proceeding. > > > > > > > > I know this is not an easy task to do, and that it will > > > require > > > > sighted help, but you do need to start on a level playing > > > field. > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith > > > Barrett > > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 22:43 > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > > > > > Thanks for that. > > > > > > > > I thought that 1930 connection may have been something to > > > do with it. > > > > > > > > I have no other network devices listed in device manager. > > > > > > > > I have been getting the drivers from the intel web site. > > > > The network card is an onboard one so I got all the > > > software for the > > > > mobo which is a d875pbz. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it could be that this board is not xp > > > compatible? > > > > > > > > On 2 Jan 2005 at 22:12, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Start | run | cmd to get command prompt up. Doing > > > > ipconfig won't do > > > > > anything from run prompt because the command window will > > > > open, the > > > > > program will run, display the info, then exit cleanly, > > > > causing the > > > > > window to close only momentairly afterwards. > > > > > > > > > > The 1394 connection (I assume your message meant this) > > > > would also > > > > show > > > > > up as a network device, it is a small port which sort of > > > > resembles a > > > > USB > > > > > port but will have a edge to it (sorry for explaining > > > this > > > > poorly). > > > > > It is for connecting cameras etc, and gives high data > > > > transfer rates. > > > > > You may not have a connector, as there may not be a port > > > > on the case, > > > > > so > > > > the > > > > > pinouts on the motherboard would be there, they just > > > > wouldn't go to > > > > > anything. On this machine which also has both ports, I > > > > have two items > > > > > in the network applet, that of the LAN (Realtek Gigabit > > > > NIC) and a Via > > > > > 1394 controler. > > > > > > > > > > As for the drivers, where exactly are you getting these > > > > from? > > > > > > > > > > Also, just checking you are looking in the right place, > > > > are you > > > > > getting to device manager by going into control panel | > > > > system | > > > > > hardware | device manager? > > > > > > > > > > Andrew. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > > > Behalf > > > > > Of Keith Barrett > > > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 20:22 > > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > > > > > > > Nothing in other devices. > > > > > > > > > > How do I get to the command prompt in xp? > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean the run dialogue box? > > > > > > > > > > I get no response typing ipconfig in that box. > > > > > > > > > > Do you know what this 1934 network connection might be? > > > > > > > > > > Whenever I try to connect, I keep getting the message > > > that > > > > the 1934 > > > > > network connection was unable to varify any ip > > > information > > > > and nothing > > > > > else. > > > > > > > > > > I did try to remove this connection in order to start > > > > again but I > > > > > think I have made things worse as now, when I go in to > > > > i.e. it tells > > > > > me I need to connect or work offline so it seems that it > > > > is not even > > > > > looking for a network connection. > > > > > > > > > > When I select any option to do with that connection, I > > > get > > > > an error > > > > > message so I think I have really messed things up. > > > > > > > > > > Another install of xp? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 Jan 2005 at 16:10, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Keith, > > > > > > > > > > > > What items do you have in the other devices category > > > (if > > > > anything) > > > > > > in the device manager? What happens when you do an > > > > ipconfig from > > > > > the > > > > > > command line (do you get an IP address in 192.168.x.x > > > > range)? > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of Keith Barrett > > > > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 15:55 > > > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Subject: [access-uk] xp network problem > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have now reinstalled xp. > > > > > > > > > > > > In device manager, the only thing I can find is a 1934 > > > > network > > > > > adapter. > > > > > > > > > > > > No mention of anything that resembles intel. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, do I now install the intel driver package? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > > > - - > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith Barrett > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gw4nby > > > > > > > > > > > > Bridgend > > > > > > South Wales > > > > > > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > > > > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > ** and in the Subject line type > > > > > > ** unsubscribe > > > > > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send > > > a > > > > message, > > > > > to > > > > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- > > > > faq > > > > > > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > > > > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > ** and in the Subject line type > > > > > > ** unsubscribe > > > > > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send > > > a > > > > message, > > > > > to > > > > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- > > > > faq > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > - 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