Hi George, Well, a miricle, we have finally got it working. What a relief. Many thanks to you and also to Andrew for your helpful suggestions and advice. Now Charlotte is reminding me that it is her birthday on the 17th so, I have a feeling that I will not get away with this without paying a high price. On 4 Jan 2005 at 0:17, George Bell wrote: > Hi Keith, > > Wait until she's 16 or 18, and then it's REAL payback time! > And that's speaking from personal experience, believe me! > (Smile) > > So now you go to > http://support.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/bz_drive.htm > from your working PC and download the drivers. But also > read the Steps link about installing them. > > I'm afraid you have not got much alternative but to either > do this via Windows 2000 on that machine, or copy them via > CD from one to the other. > > George. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Barrett > Sent: 03 January 2005 22:14 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem > > > > Hi George, > > Not sure where to go now. Yes, it has seen an ethernet > device which it does not recognize. It says in device > manager that the device is unknown and it has no drivers. > > If I tell it to get a driver, it wants to go on line, which > of course, it cannot do. I tryed showing it the intel > drivers and it did not want to know them and I tryed telling > it to look in windows and that was not good either. > > This is all possible because of the 9 year old, Charlotte > but it is costing me dearly in bribes. I could have got a > new computer for less. > > So, I wonder what drivers I need? I cannot let it find them > as I need to go online with the other drive and transfer > what I download via cd. > > > On 3 Jan 2005 at 18:54, George Bell wrote: > > > Hi Keith, > > > > You bet. And it sounds like you didn't read the bit about > > preserving your settings, but not to worry. > > > > O.K. You are clearly making progress. It has seen an > > Ethernet device. Now it needs to be told what to do with > > it. > > > > Do you reckon you can now manage to download the Ethernet > > drivers and install them? Should be a walk in the park > > compared to what you've just done. > > > > By the way, did you let that wee lassie of yours help you? > > If you did, she deserves a really big treat - and if you > > don't get her one, I'll personally come down and > demobilise > > your system!! (Smile) > > > > George. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith > > Barrett > > > Sent: 03 January 2005 18:32 > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi George, > > > > > > That was a bit frightening. > > > > > > I think we have upgraded the bios now. > > > > > > Only slight reservation is that when the system > restarted, > > > > > some of the bios settings were lost and it would not > find > > the > > > hard drive. > > > > > > So, we went in to the bios and, when we finally got it > > booted > > > got a message to say that the upgrade was successful. > > > > > > Unfortunately, though, still no network connection. > > > > > > Now, in devicemanager other devices there is an ethernet > > > > device, type unknown no drivers. > > > > > > It has attempted to establish a connection it calls 1394 > > > > which does not work, selecting the repair options gives > > the > > > message that it could not varify an ip address. > > > > > > Using ipconfig returns no ip address. > > > > > > Removing the network cable does not bring up a message > in > > the > > > sys tray that the cable is unplugged. > > > > > > I think that the card is not being recognized or even > seen > > by xp. > > > > > > I did try to remove the connection that it had tryed to > > > create in order to start again but it will not be > deleted > > as > > > it claims to be active. > > > > > > So, any ideas before I find a big hammer? > > > > > > > > > On 3 Jan 2005 at 0:00, George Bell wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Keith, > > > > > > > > Go to > > http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/bz_bios.htm > > > > which should be the BIOS details for your MOBO. > Please > > > double check > > > > that the model number given there is absolutely 110 > per > > > cent correct. > > > > > > > > Read up very carefully on the three "How do I use..." > > > > options, and decide which of the first two you wish to > > use. > > > > The second option is probably the best and safest. > > > > > > > > You choice is going to very much depend on said 9 year > > old > > > lady. It's > > > > a very big responsibility for such young shoulders. > > > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith > > Barrett > > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 23:50 > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi George, > > > > > > > > Thanks for this and sorry for the late reply I did not > > notice your > > > > message among all the excitement. > > > > > > > > So, how does one go about updating the bios? > > > > > > > > I presume that there must have been problems with this > > > > board as this > > > > seems a large number of updates. > > > > > > > > If I can work out how to do it, I will see if I can > > bribe my > > > > 9 year old to lend me her eyes although it is the > wrong > > side of > > > > chrismas and I do not have much to bargain with. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 Jan 2005 at 23:06, George Bell wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Keith, > > > > > > > > > > Looking at http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/ > > and > > > > specifically > > > > > at the BIOS, are you aware that between April 2003, > > and > > > > 1st December > > > > > 2004, there have been no fewer than > > > > > 33 BIOS upgrades! > > > > > > > > > > Quite honestly, I'd be very reluctant to go any > > further > > > > until you have > > > > > the very latest BIOS installed. > > > > > > > > > > Indeed I would more than suspect that if you were to > > > > contact Intel's > > > > > Technical Support people, they would ask you to do > > this > > > > before > > > > > proceeding. > > > > > > > > > > I know this is not an easy task to do, and that it > > will > > > > require > > > > > sighted help, but you do need to start on a level > > playing > > > > field. > > > > > > > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith > > > > Barrett > > > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 22:43 > > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Andrew, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that. > > > > > > > > > > I thought that 1930 connection may have been > something > > to > > > > do with it. > > > > > > > > > > I have no other network devices listed in device > > manager. > > > > > > > > > > I have been getting the drivers from the intel web > > site. > > > > > The network card is an onboard one so I got all the > > > > software for the > > > > > mobo which is a d875pbz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it could be that this board is not xp > > > > compatible? > > > > This Message has been scanned for viruses by McAfee Groupshield. > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq Keith - - Keith Barrett gw4nby Bridgend South Wales ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq