[access-uk] Re: xp network problem

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:54:59 -0000

Hi Keith,

You bet.  And it sounds like you didn't read the bit about
preserving your settings, but not to worry.

O.K.  You are clearly making progress.  It has seen an
Ethernet device.  Now it needs to be told what to do with
it.

Do you reckon you can now manage to download the Ethernet
drivers and install them?  Should be a walk in the park
compared to what you've just done.

By the way, did you let that wee lassie of yours help you?
If you did, she deserves a really big treat - and if you
don't get her one, I'll personally come down and demobilise
your system!!  (Smile)

George.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith
Barrett
> Sent: 03 January 2005 18:32
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem
> 
> 
> 
> Hi George,
> 
> That was a bit frightening.
> 
> I think we have upgraded the bios now.
> 
> Only slight reservation is that when the system restarted,

> some of the bios settings were lost and it would not find
the 
> hard drive.
> 
> So, we went in to the bios and, when we finally got it
booted 
> got a message to say that the upgrade was successful.
> 
> Unfortunately, though, still no network connection.
> 
> Now, in devicemanager other devices there is an ethernet 
> device, type unknown no drivers.
> 
> It has attempted to establish a connection it calls 1394 
> which does not work, selecting the repair options gives
the 
> message that it could not varify an ip address.
> 
> Using ipconfig returns no ip address.
> 
> Removing the network cable does not bring up a message in
the 
> sys tray that the cable is unplugged.
> 
> I think that the card is not being recognized or even seen
by xp.
> 
> I did try to remove the connection that it had tryed to 
> create in order to start again but it will not be deleted
as 
> it claims to be active.
> 
> So, any ideas before I find a big hammer?
> 
> 
> On 3 Jan 2005 at 0:00, George Bell wrote:
> 
> > Hi Keith,
> > 
> > Go to
http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/bz_bios.htm
> > which should be the BIOS details for your MOBO.  Please 
> double check 
> > that the model number given there is absolutely 110 per 
> cent correct.
> > 
> > Read up very carefully on the three "How do I use..."
> > options, and decide which of the first two you wish to
use.
> > The second option is probably the best and safest.
> > 
> > You choice is going to very much depend on said 9 year
old 
> lady.  It's 
> > a very big responsibility for such young shoulders.
> > 
> > Good luck.
> > 
> > George.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith
Barrett
> > Sent: 02 January 2005 23:50
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem
> > 
> > 
> > Hi George,
> > 
> > Thanks for this and sorry for the late reply I did not
notice your 
> > message among all the excitement.
> > 
> > So, how does one go about updating the bios?
> > 
> > I presume that there must have been problems with this 
> board as this 
> > seems a large number of updates.
> > 
> > If I can work out how to do it, I will see if I can
bribe my
> > 9 year old to lend me her eyes although it is the wrong
side of 
> > chrismas and I do not have much to bargain with.
> > 
> > 
> > On 2 Jan 2005 at 23:06, George Bell wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Keith,
> > > 
> > > Looking at http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bz/
and
> > specifically
> > > at the BIOS, are you aware that between April 2003,
and
> > 1st December
> > > 2004, there have been no fewer than
> > > 33 BIOS upgrades!
> > > 
> > > Quite honestly, I'd be very reluctant to go any
further
> > until you have
> > > the very latest BIOS installed.
> > > 
> > > Indeed I would more than suspect that if you were to
> > contact Intel's
> > > Technical Support people, they would ask you to do
this
> > before
> > > proceeding.
> > > 
> > > I know this is not an easy task to do, and that it
will
> > require
> > > sighted help, but you do need to start on a level
playing
> > field.
> > > 
> > > George.
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith
> > Barrett
> > > Sent: 02 January 2005 22:43
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for that.
> > > 
> > > I thought that 1930 connection may have been something
to
> > do with it.
> > > 
> > > I have no other network devices listed in device
manager.
> > > 
> > > I have been getting the drivers from the intel web
site.
> > > The network card is an onboard one so I got all the
> > software for the
> > > mobo which is a d875pbz.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Do you think it could be that this board is not xp
> > compatible?
> > > 
> > > On 2 Jan 2005 at 22:12, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Start | run | cmd to get command prompt up.  Doing
> > > ipconfig won't do
> > > > anything from run prompt because the command window
will
> > > open, the
> > > > program will run, display the info, then exit
cleanly,
> > > causing the
> > > > window to close only momentairly afterwards.
> > > > 
> > > > The 1394 connection (I assume your message meant
this)
> > > would also
> > > show
> > > > up as a network device, it is a small port which
sort of
> > > resembles a
> > > USB
> > > > port but will have a edge to it (sorry for
explaining
> > this
> > > poorly).  
> > > > It is for connecting cameras etc, and gives high
data
> > > transfer rates.  
> > > > You may not have a connector, as there may not be a
port
> > > on the case,
> > > > so
> > > the
> > > > pinouts on the motherboard would be there, they just
> > > wouldn't go to
> > > > anything.  On this machine which also has both
ports, I
> > > have two items
> > > > in the network applet, that of the LAN (Realtek
Gigabit
> > > NIC) and a Via
> > > > 1394 controler.
> > > > 
> > > > As for the drivers, where exactly are you getting
these
> > > from?
> > > > 
> > > > Also, just checking you are looking in the right
place,
> > > are you
> > > > getting to device manager by going into control
panel |
> > > system |
> > > > hardware | device manager?
> > > > 
> > > > Andrew.
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Keith Barrett
> > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 20:22
> > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: xp network problem
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > 
> > > > Nothing in other devices.
> > > > 
> > > > How do I get to the command prompt in xp?
> > > > 
> > > > Do you mean the run dialogue box?
> > > > 
> > > > I get no response typing ipconfig in that box.
> > > > 
> > > > Do you know what this 1934 network connection might
be?
> > > > 
> > > > Whenever I try to connect, I keep getting the
message
> > that
> > > the 1934
> > > > network connection was unable to varify any ip
> > information
> > > and nothing
> > > > else.
> > > > 
> > > > I did try to remove this connection in order to
start
> > > again but I
> > > > think I have made things worse as now, when I go in
to
> > > i.e. it tells
> > > > me I need to connect or work offline so it seems
that it
> > > is not even
> > > > looking for a network connection.
> > > > 
> > > > When I select any option to do with that connection,
I
> > get
> > > an error
> > > > message so I think I have really messed things up.
> > > > 
> > > > Another install of xp?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 2 Jan 2005 at 16:10, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Keith,
> > > > > 
> > > > > What items do you have in the other devices
category
> > (if
> > > anything)
> > > > > in the device manager?  What happens when you do
an
> > > ipconfig from
> > > > the
> > > > > command line (do you get an IP address in
192.168.x.x
> > > range)?  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Andrew. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Keith Barrett
> > > > > Sent: 02 January 2005 15:55
> > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [access-uk] xp network problem
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Andrew,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have now reinstalled xp.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In device manager, the only thing I can find is a
1934
> > > network
> > > > adapter.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No mention of anything that resembles intel.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So, do I now install the intel driver package?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Keith
> > > > > 
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