[access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA

  • From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:43:13 -0000

The only way you lose it if if you reformat. We've rebuilt the planner a 
couple of times over the last couple of years or more we've had it and reset 
a couple more times.

Cheers
dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM 
nEBULA


Dave,

I'm glad you've managed to keep all your data because that wasn't what we've
heard from two separate programmes now where this topic has arisen.  Anyway,
let's all watch this space.

--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM
nEBULA


> We always use the recording features heavily as Angela can see enough to
> use
> them. We have pretty much maxed out our Sky plus box quite a lot. We
> phoned
> the technical help desk once as we weren't getting our free space back,
> and
> they took us through an accessible way of sorting it out, well, for Angela
> anyway.  We occasionally have to unplug it so that it can reset itself,
> but
> that's about it. I know other people have had problems with sky plus
> boxes,
> but I suspect the fixes we did would have worked for most people, and
> unplugging the mains lead now and again helps, and all data is saved.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:09 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM
> nEBULA
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I don't want to throw a spanner in the works here because it does sound as
> though Sky are getting it together;  but I thought I'd just draw your
> attention to the fact that Watchdog have received loads and loads of
> complaints about the Sky boxes.  One person has had eleven in all and
> another seven!  It may be of course that this comes about when you set a
> number of recordings for later, which presumably most blind people don't
> do
> right now.
>
> Anyway, just thought I'd pass it on.  Hopefully they'll have it all sorted
> soon!
>
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:05 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I'm going to send another email shortly about the BBC iPlayer and how you
>> may not need to buy a system like Nebula really soon. But first I'm going
>> to
>> talk about Sky + as a serious alternative.
>>
>> The Nebula electronics system seems a little lacking if it can't pick up
>> subscription channels.
>>
>> And I'm assuming that, being as you're not buying into Sky Digital, you
>> won't be able to take advantage of Sky's cheap dish installation service.
>> You will have to get an indepednent local company to put up your dish at
>> I'm
>> guessing would be a couple of hundred pounds?
>>
>> Have you tried using Sky + at all? Much of it is accessible without
>> having
>> to learn lots of menu-dodging keystrokes. It's easy as pie to pause
>> programmes and view them again ... though you will be arrowing down a
>> menu
>> list of your recorded programmes you can't see the title of, at least
>> you'll
>> have a vague idea of what's there and can dip in and out to hear a bit of
>> audio to see if you hav found the show you want to watch.
>>
>> You can record programmes by sitting and waiting for them to come on ...
>> then hitting the big round select button with the record button straight
>> afterwards. The recording will end when the programme ends and will
>> appear
>> in your recorded programmes menu immediately.
>>
>> Though you won't have access to the Electronic Programme Guide, your
>> recorded programmes menu is easily navigable .I use mine all the time.
>>
>> Note that I am someone who usually refuses to learn menus because I see
>> this
>> as a ridiculous access solution oftentimes ... happily little learning is
>> needed here.
>>
>> Of course, the best thing about sky + is being able to record programmes
>> in
>> advance and add series links so that you never miss your favourite show.
>> I
>> understan dfrom Sky that you can now use their SMS text message service
>> to
>> set up advance recordings on your sky + box. I haven't researched how
>> much
>> this costs but, on a yearly basis it might be worth calculating whether
>> or
>> not it'll cost more to put up a dish?
>>
>> I find the whole computer access just completely unsatisfactory and we
>> should all be lobbying Sky to get access to the EPG via set-top boxes.
>>
>> This is going to become more of a serious issue as Video on Demand starts
>> to
>> become the norm. BT's new BT Vision service starts next week and from day
>> one the vast majority of the TV they supply will be inaccessible to you.
>> Cable and even satelite or the preferred satelite broadband hybrid
>> television systems being discussed will mean you may not be able to watch
>> much TV at all soon as broadcast channels are going to be less important
>> and
>> will eventually disappear. Sitting in front of your TV box and passively
>> ingesting a channel may not be around in the same way in 5 to 10 years
>> time.
>>
>>
>> Has anyone yet done any lobbying? Or have any other info to add to this?
>>
>> And if you've used the Sky SMS service it'd be good to get some feedback
>> from you.
>>
>> Don't forget you can always ask a mate to come over once a week to help
>> you
>> setup your TV recordings. Do a bit of research on the web beforehand and
>> you're sorted. Also, if you want to follow an entire series, a series
>> link
>> can be added and you won't need to think about it again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary Robinson" <gary.r@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:55 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>
>>
>>>    Hi Brian and others,
>>>
>>> You may be interested in the following response I obtained from nebula.
>>> Sadly it looks as if it's not going to give us access to the SKY audio
>>> described channels.  I had hoped that it might be an alternative to the
>>> Sky
>>> plus box but rather more accessible.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> Thanks for your enquires, which are answered as follows:
>>> 1. Will the unit support access to subscription channels e.g SKY etc
>>> (via
>>> smart card?).
>>> No, the satellite device will support only Freeview Satellite channels.
>>> 2. Will the program guide be available for satellite channels?
>>> Yes.
>>> 3. Will it support audio description on the satellite channels?
>>> Yes.
>>> 4. Will the software interface be the same as the digitv i.e accessible
>>> to
>>> screen reader software?
>>> We will be using the same software but it will have a satellite decoder
>>> along with a Freeview decoder built-in.
>>> 5. When will it be available and how much will it cost?
>>> Our developers have confirmed that the Satellite devices will be
>>> released
>>> within the first quarter of next year.  Unfortunately they are unable to
>>> be
>>> more
>>> specific at this time.  They cannot confirm a price at this time either
>>> I'm
>>> afraid.  We hope you will visit our website regularly to keep up to date
>>> on
>>> any update on this.
>>> Thanks again for your email and we hope this helps.
>>> Thanks & Best Regards
>>> The Support Team
>>> Nebula Electronics
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:27 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes I will do.
>>>> I will telephone them tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Brian Hartgen
>>>>
>>>> MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> SKYPE: brianhartgen
>>>> SKYPE IN UK:  0208-133-7186
>>>> SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "andrew shipp" <andrew-shipp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:10 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Brian  When you find out  about this could you please let me
>>>>> know,
>>>>> many thanks.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <ACCESS-UK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note there is now a product on the Nebula web site, priced £102
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> UsB product only it would seem.  This is
>>>>>> Digital Satellite (S2) Receiver - Master USB version
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know which channels exactly I would be able to receive
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> product and is it as accessible as the conventional product?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If no-one knows about this I will call them on Monday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian Hartgen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> SKYPE: brianhartgen
>>>>>> SKYPE IN UK:  0208-133-7186
>>>>>> SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581
>>>>>>
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