on the web too? That sounds great. I really feel Sky + could be the best solution ... and from your armchair in your sitting room too. Lovely. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:18 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA > Hi Damon, > > The cost for the SMS service, which is great, is 25p per successful > recording. That means if you put in a programme that is not on the Sky = > EPG > or make a mistake, you are not charged. > > You will also be able to set up remote recordings to your Sky Plus box = > over > the web soon. I still think Sky is the best way to go, and offers the = > most > choice in the channel line up. > > All the best > -- > Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. > Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 > International: +44(0)1438 742286,=20 > Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 > mobile: +44(0)7956 334938,=20 > Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk =20 > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf = > Of > Damon > Sent: 29 November 2006 08:05 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM = > nEBULA > > Hi. > > I'm going to send another email shortly about the BBC iPlayer and how = > you > may not need to buy a system like Nebula really soon. But first I'm = > going to > talk about Sky + as a serious alternative. > > The Nebula electronics system seems a little lacking if it can't pick up > subscription channels. > > And I'm assuming that, being as you're not buying into Sky Digital, you > won't be able to take advantage of Sky's cheap dish installation = > service.=20 > You will have to get an indepednent local company to put up your dish at = > I'm > guessing would be a couple of hundred pounds? > > Have you tried using Sky + at all? Much of it is accessible without = > having > to learn lots of menu-dodging keystrokes. It's easy as pie to pause > programmes and view them again ... though you will be arrowing down a = > menu > list of your recorded programmes you can't see the title of, at least = > you'll > have a vague idea of what's there and can dip in and out to hear a bit = > of > audio to see if you hav found the show you want to watch. > > You can record programmes by sitting and waiting for them to come on ... = > > then hitting the big round select button with the record button straight > afterwards. The recording will end when the programme ends and will = > appear > in your recorded programmes menu immediately. > > Though you won't have access to the Electronic Programme Guide, your > recorded programmes menu is easily navigable .I use mine all the time. > > Note that I am someone who usually refuses to learn menus because I see = > this > as a ridiculous access solution oftentimes ... happily little learning = > is > needed here. > > Of course, the best thing about sky + is being able to record programmes = > in > advance and add series links so that you never miss your favourite show. = > I > understan dfrom Sky that you can now use their SMS text message service = > to > set up advance recordings on your sky + box. I haven't researched how = > much > this costs but, on a yearly basis it might be worth calculating whether = > or > not it'll cost more to put up a dish? > > I find the whole computer access just completely unsatisfactory and we > should all be lobbying Sky to get access to the EPG via set-top boxes. > > This is going to become more of a serious issue as Video on Demand = > starts to > become the norm. BT's new BT Vision service starts next week and from = > day > one the vast majority of the TV they supply will be inaccessible to you. = > > Cable and even satelite or the preferred satelite broadband hybrid > television systems being discussed will mean you may not be able to = > watch > much TV at all soon as broadcast channels are going to be less important = > and > will eventually disappear. Sitting in front of your TV box and passively > ingesting a channel may not be around in the same way in 5 to 10 years = > time. > > > Has anyone yet done any lobbying? Or have any other info to add to this? > > And if you've used the Sky SMS service it'd be good to get some feedback > from you. > > Don't forget you can always ask a mate to come over once a week to help = > you > setup your TV recordings. Do a bit of research on the web beforehand and > you're sorted. Also, if you want to follow an entire series, a series = > link > can be added and you won't need to think about it again. > > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Robinson" <gary.r@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:55 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA > > >> Hi Brian and others, >> >> You may be interested in the following response I obtained from = > nebula. >> Sadly it looks as if it's not going to give us access to the SKY audio >> described channels. I had hoped that it might be an alternative to = > the=20 >> Sky >> plus box but rather more accessible. >> >> Gary >> >> Hi Gary, >> Thanks for your enquires, which are answered as follows: >> 1. Will the unit support access to subscription channels e.g SKY etc = > (via >> smart card?). >> No, the satellite device will support only Freeview Satellite = > channels. >> 2. Will the program guide be available for satellite channels? >> Yes. >> 3. Will it support audio description on the satellite channels? >> Yes. >> 4. Will the software interface be the same as the digitv i.e = > accessible to >> screen reader software? >> We will be using the same software but it will have a satellite = > decoder >> along with a Freeview decoder built-in. >> 5. When will it be available and how much will it cost? >> Our developers have confirmed that the Satellite devices will be = > released >> within the first quarter of next year. Unfortunately they are unable = > to=20 >> be >> more >> specific at this time. They cannot confirm a price at this time = > either=20 >> I'm >> afraid. We hope you will visit our website regularly to keep up to = > date=20 >> on >> any update on this. >> Thanks again for your email and we hope this helps. >> Thanks & Best Regards >> The Support Team >> Nebula Electronics >> >> ----- Original Message -----=20 >> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:27 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA >> >> >>> Yes I will do. >>> I will telephone them tomorrow. >>> >>> Brian Hartgen >>> >>> MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> SKYPE: brianhartgen >>> SKYPE IN UK: 0208-133-7186 >>> SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581 >>> ----- Original Message -----=20 >>> From: "andrew shipp" <andrew-shipp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:10 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA >>> >>> >>>> Hello Brian When you find out about this could you please let me = > know, >>>> many thanks. >>>> ----- Original Message -----=20 >>>> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <ACCESS-UK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:35 PM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] PRODUCT FROM nEBULA >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I note there is now a product on the Nebula web site, priced =A3102 = > which >>>>> is >>>>> a >>>>> UsB product only it would seem. 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