[access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:49:35 -0000
Hi Dave,
The kind of defrag you are talking about to get your space back, is even
accessible to blind people, even though it doesn't talk. Do the =
following,
when Angela doesn't want to do it for you <Smile>.
1. Press the services button.
2. Press 4 for setup.
3. Press 017 on your remote. 01 is for installation options, and 7 is =
for
rebuild planner, you will not lose any recordings.=20
4. Press the select button on the remote. Before you press select, it =
is
just asking you if you are sure. Once you press select, your box will =
go
off. Wait for a couple of minutes, and your box will reboot, and you =
will
be back on standby. You won't know that you are on standby, but just =
press
the Sky button occasionally, and eventually, the box will come back on.
If there is anything that is incorrect in this, let me know, but my =
sister
went through it with me pretty thoroughly, when an engineer told her how =
to
do it.
All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
Of
Dave Taylor
Sent: 29 November 2006 14:43
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM
nEBULA
The only way you lose it if if you reformat. We've rebuilt the planner a
couple of times over the last couple of years or more we've had it and =
reset
a couple more times.
Cheers
dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM
nEBULA
Dave,
I'm glad you've managed to keep all your data because that wasn't what =
we've
heard from two separate programmes now where this topic has arisen. =
Anyway,
let's all watch this space.
--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM
nEBULA
> We always use the recording features heavily as Angela can see enough =
to
> use
> them. We have pretty much maxed out our Sky plus box quite a lot. We
> phoned
> the technical help desk once as we weren't getting our free space =
back,
> and
> they took us through an accessible way of sorting it out, well, for =
Angela
> anyway. We occasionally have to unplug it so that it can reset =
itself,
> but
> that's about it. I know other people have had problems with sky plus
> boxes,
> but I suspect the fixes we did would have worked for most people, and
> unplugging the mains lead now and again helps, and all data is saved.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:09 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT =
FROM
> nEBULA
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I don't want to throw a spanner in the works here because it does =
sound as
> though Sky are getting it together; but I thought I'd just draw your
> attention to the fact that Watchdog have received loads and loads of
> complaints about the Sky boxes. One person has had eleven in all and
> another seven! It may be of course that this comes about when you set =
a
> number of recordings for later, which presumably most blind people =
don't
> do
> right now.
>
> Anyway, just thought I'd pass it on. Hopefully they'll have it all =
sorted
> soon!
>
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:05 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM =
nEBULA
>
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I'm going to send another email shortly about the BBC iPlayer and how =
you
>> may not need to buy a system like Nebula really soon. But first I'm =
going
>> to
>> talk about Sky + as a serious alternative.
>>
>> The Nebula electronics system seems a little lacking if it can't pick =
up
>> subscription channels.
>>
>> And I'm assuming that, being as you're not buying into Sky Digital, =
you
>> won't be able to take advantage of Sky's cheap dish installation =
service.
>> You will have to get an indepednent local company to put up your dish =
at
>> I'm
>> guessing would be a couple of hundred pounds?
>>
>> Have you tried using Sky + at all? Much of it is accessible without
>> having
>> to learn lots of menu-dodging keystrokes. It's easy as pie to pause
>> programmes and view them again ... though you will be arrowing down a
>> menu
>> list of your recorded programmes you can't see the title of, at least
>> you'll
>> have a vague idea of what's there and can dip in and out to hear a =
bit of
>> audio to see if you hav found the show you want to watch.
>>
>> You can record programmes by sitting and waiting for them to come on =
...
>> then hitting the big round select button with the record button =
straight
>> afterwards. The recording will end when the programme ends and will
>> appear
>> in your recorded programmes menu immediately.
>>
>> Though you won't have access to the Electronic Programme Guide, your
>> recorded programmes menu is easily navigable .I use mine all the =
time.
>>
>> Note that I am someone who usually refuses to learn menus because I =
see
>> this
>> as a ridiculous access solution oftentimes ... happily little =
learning is
>> needed here.
>>
>> Of course, the best thing about sky + is being able to record =
programmes
>> in
>> advance and add series links so that you never miss your favourite =
show.
>> I
>> understan dfrom Sky that you can now use their SMS text message =
service
>> to
>> set up advance recordings on your sky + box. I haven't researched how
>> much
>> this costs but, on a yearly basis it might be worth calculating =
whether
>> or
>> not it'll cost more to put up a dish?
>>
>> I find the whole computer access just completely unsatisfactory and =
we
>> should all be lobbying Sky to get access to the EPG via set-top =
boxes.
>>
>> This is going to become more of a serious issue as Video on Demand =
starts
>> to
>> become the norm. BT's new BT Vision service starts next week and from =
day
>> one the vast majority of the TV they supply will be inaccessible to =
you.
>> Cable and even satelite or the preferred satelite broadband hybrid
>> television systems being discussed will mean you may not be able to =
watch
>> much TV at all soon as broadcast channels are going to be less =
important
>> and
>> will eventually disappear. Sitting in front of your TV box and =
passively
>> ingesting a channel may not be around in the same way in 5 to 10 =
years
>> time.
>>
>>
>> Has anyone yet done any lobbying? Or have any other info to add to =
this?
>>
>> And if you've used the Sky SMS service it'd be good to get some =
feedback
>> from you.
>>
>> Don't forget you can always ask a mate to come over once a week to =
help
>> you
>> setup your TV recordings. Do a bit of research on the web beforehand =
and
>> you're sorted. Also, if you want to follow an entire series, a series
>> link
>> can be added and you won't need to think about it again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Gary Robinson" <gary.r@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:55 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>
>>
>>> Hi Brian and others,
>>>
>>> You may be interested in the following response I obtained from =
nebula.
>>> Sadly it looks as if it's not going to give us access to the SKY =
audio
>>> described channels. I had hoped that it might be an alternative to =
the
>>> Sky
>>> plus box but rather more accessible.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> Thanks for your enquires, which are answered as follows:
>>> 1. Will the unit support access to subscription channels e.g SKY etc
>>> (via
>>> smart card?).
>>> No, the satellite device will support only Freeview Satellite =
channels.
>>> 2. Will the program guide be available for satellite channels?
>>> Yes.
>>> 3. Will it support audio description on the satellite channels?
>>> Yes.
>>> 4. Will the software interface be the same as the digitv i.e =
accessible
>>> to
>>> screen reader software?
>>> We will be using the same software but it will have a satellite =
decoder
>>> along with a Freeview decoder built-in.
>>> 5. When will it be available and how much will it cost?
>>> Our developers have confirmed that the Satellite devices will be
>>> released
>>> within the first quarter of next year. Unfortunately they are =
unable to
>>> be
>>> more
>>> specific at this time. They cannot confirm a price at this time =
either
>>> I'm
>>> afraid. We hope you will visit our website regularly to keep up to =
date
>>> on
>>> any update on this.
>>> Thanks again for your email and we hope this helps.
>>> Thanks & Best Regards
>>> The Support Team
>>> Nebula Electronics
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:27 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes I will do.
>>>> I will telephone them tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Brian Hartgen
>>>>
>>>> MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> SKYPE: brianhartgen
>>>> SKYPE IN UK: 0208-133-7186
>>>> SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "andrew shipp" <andrew-shipp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:10 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Brian When you find out about this could you please let me
>>>>> know,
>>>>> many thanks.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>>> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <ACCESS-UK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note there is now a product on the Nebula web site, priced =
=A3102
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> UsB product only it would seem. This is
>>>>>> Digital Satellite (S2) Receiver - Master USB version
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know which channels exactly I would be able to =
receive
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> product and is it as accessible as the conventional product?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If no-one knows about this I will call them on Monday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian Hartgen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> SKYPE: brianhartgen
>>>>>> SKYPE IN UK: 0208-133-7186
>>>>>> SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581
>>>>>>
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