[access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 06:53:04 -0000
Hi Damon,
It is not necessarily a problem that you would know about. But if you
rebuild the planner occasionally, you will gain space on your player. =
For
example, pre-build, my sister once had 30 percent free space, and after =
a
build, it shot up to 70 percent. This is because the disk was quite =
badly
fragmented. If you make a lot of recordings, it is just like a =
computer, it
gets fragmented, and the Sky+ box doesn't look after itself too well in =
that
regard, so you have to give it a hand sometimes, if you want optimum
performance. But again, it is not a problem if you are happy. I just =
like
doing housework on all my computers, including Sky+.
All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
Of
Damon
Sent: 30 November 2006 06:47
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM
nEBULA
blimey. I've never had any of these problems and I've had sky + for 15
months now. I have the PVR3 player with 40 hours of recording space.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:43 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM=20
nEBULA
> The only way you lose it if if you reformat. We've rebuilt the planner =
a
> couple of times over the last couple of years or more we've had it and =
> reset
> a couple more times.
>
> Cheers
> dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:28 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT =
FROM
> nEBULA
>
>
> Dave,
>
> I'm glad you've managed to keep all your data because that wasn't what =
> we've
> heard from two separate programmes now where this topic has arisen.=20
> Anyway,
> let's all watch this space.
>
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:32 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT =
FROM
> nEBULA
>
>
>> We always use the recording features heavily as Angela can see enough =
to
>> use
>> them. We have pretty much maxed out our Sky plus box quite a lot. We
>> phoned
>> the technical help desk once as we weren't getting our free space =
back,
>> and
>> they took us through an accessible way of sorting it out, well, for=20
>> Angela
>> anyway. We occasionally have to unplug it so that it can reset =
itself,
>> but
>> that's about it. I know other people have had problems with sky plus
>> boxes,
>> but I suspect the fixes we did would have worked for most people, and
>> unplugging the mains lead now and again helps, and all data is saved.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:09 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT =
FROM
>> nEBULA
>>
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I don't want to throw a spanner in the works here because it does =
sound=20
>> as
>> though Sky are getting it together; but I thought I'd just draw your
>> attention to the fact that Watchdog have received loads and loads of
>> complaints about the Sky boxes. One person has had eleven in all and
>> another seven! It may be of course that this comes about when you =
set a
>> number of recordings for later, which presumably most blind people =
don't
>> do
>> right now.
>>
>> Anyway, just thought I'd pass it on. Hopefully they'll have it all=20
>> sorted
>> soon!
>>
>> --
>> Carol
>> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:05 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Sky + accessibility (was: Re: Re: PRODUCT FROM=20
>> nEBULA
>>
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I'm going to send another email shortly about the BBC iPlayer and =
how=20
>>> you
>>> may not need to buy a system like Nebula really soon. But first I'm=20
>>> going
>>> to
>>> talk about Sky + as a serious alternative.
>>>
>>> The Nebula electronics system seems a little lacking if it can't =
pick up
>>> subscription channels.
>>>
>>> And I'm assuming that, being as you're not buying into Sky Digital, =
you
>>> won't be able to take advantage of Sky's cheap dish installation=20
>>> service.
>>> You will have to get an indepednent local company to put up your =
dish at
>>> I'm
>>> guessing would be a couple of hundred pounds?
>>>
>>> Have you tried using Sky + at all? Much of it is accessible without
>>> having
>>> to learn lots of menu-dodging keystrokes. It's easy as pie to pause
>>> programmes and view them again ... though you will be arrowing down =
a
>>> menu
>>> list of your recorded programmes you can't see the title of, at =
least
>>> you'll
>>> have a vague idea of what's there and can dip in and out to hear a =
bit=20
>>> of
>>> audio to see if you hav found the show you want to watch.
>>>
>>> You can record programmes by sitting and waiting for them to come on =
...
>>> then hitting the big round select button with the record button =
straight
>>> afterwards. The recording will end when the programme ends and will
>>> appear
>>> in your recorded programmes menu immediately.
>>>
>>> Though you won't have access to the Electronic Programme Guide, your
>>> recorded programmes menu is easily navigable .I use mine all the =
time.
>>>
>>> Note that I am someone who usually refuses to learn menus because I =
see
>>> this
>>> as a ridiculous access solution oftentimes ... happily little =
learning=20
>>> is
>>> needed here.
>>>
>>> Of course, the best thing about sky + is being able to record =
programmes
>>> in
>>> advance and add series links so that you never miss your favourite =
show.
>>> I
>>> understan dfrom Sky that you can now use their SMS text message =
service
>>> to
>>> set up advance recordings on your sky + box. I haven't researched =
how
>>> much
>>> this costs but, on a yearly basis it might be worth calculating =
whether
>>> or
>>> not it'll cost more to put up a dish?
>>>
>>> I find the whole computer access just completely unsatisfactory and =
we
>>> should all be lobbying Sky to get access to the EPG via set-top =
boxes.
>>>
>>> This is going to become more of a serious issue as Video on Demand=20
>>> starts
>>> to
>>> become the norm. BT's new BT Vision service starts next week and =
from=20
>>> day
>>> one the vast majority of the TV they supply will be inaccessible to =
you.
>>> Cable and even satelite or the preferred satelite broadband hybrid
>>> television systems being discussed will mean you may not be able to=20
>>> watch
>>> much TV at all soon as broadcast channels are going to be less =
important
>>> and
>>> will eventually disappear. Sitting in front of your TV box and =
passively
>>> ingesting a channel may not be around in the same way in 5 to 10 =
years
>>> time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone yet done any lobbying? Or have any other info to add to =
this?
>>>
>>> And if you've used the Sky SMS service it'd be good to get some =
feedback
>>> from you.
>>>
>>> Don't forget you can always ask a mate to come over once a week to =
help
>>> you
>>> setup your TV recordings. Do a bit of research on the web beforehand =
and
>>> you're sorted. Also, if you want to follow an entire series, a =
series
>>> link
>>> can be added and you won't need to think about it again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Gary Robinson" <gary.r@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:55 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Brian and others,
>>>>
>>>> You may be interested in the following response I obtained from =
nebula.
>>>> Sadly it looks as if it's not going to give us access to the SKY =
audio
>>>> described channels. I had hoped that it might be an alternative to =
the
>>>> Sky
>>>> plus box but rather more accessible.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> Hi Gary,
>>>> Thanks for your enquires, which are answered as follows:
>>>> 1. Will the unit support access to subscription channels e.g SKY =
etc
>>>> (via
>>>> smart card?).
>>>> No, the satellite device will support only Freeview Satellite =
channels.
>>>> 2. Will the program guide be available for satellite channels?
>>>> Yes.
>>>> 3. Will it support audio description on the satellite channels?
>>>> Yes.
>>>> 4. Will the software interface be the same as the digitv i.e =
accessible
>>>> to
>>>> screen reader software?
>>>> We will be using the same software but it will have a satellite =
decoder
>>>> along with a Freeview decoder built-in.
>>>> 5. When will it be available and how much will it cost?
>>>> Our developers have confirmed that the Satellite devices will be
>>>> released
>>>> within the first quarter of next year. Unfortunately they are =
unable=20
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> more
>>>> specific at this time. They cannot confirm a price at this time =
either
>>>> I'm
>>>> afraid. We hope you will visit our website regularly to keep up to =
>>>> date
>>>> on
>>>> any update on this.
>>>> Thanks again for your email and we hope this helps.
>>>> Thanks & Best Regards
>>>> The Support Team
>>>> Nebula Electronics
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:27 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes I will do.
>>>>> I will telephone them tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian Hartgen
>>>>>
>>>>> MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> SKYPE: brianhartgen
>>>>> SKYPE IN UK: 0208-133-7186
>>>>> SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>>> From: "andrew shipp" <andrew-shipp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:10 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Brian When you find out about this could you please let =
me
>>>>>> know,
>>>>>> many thanks.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>>>> From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <ACCESS-UK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:35 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] PRODUCT FROM nEBULA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I note there is now a product on the Nebula web site, priced =
=A3102
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> UsB product only it would seem. This is
>>>>>>> Digital Satellite (S2) Receiver - Master USB version
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone know which channels exactly I would be able to =
receive
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> product and is it as accessible as the conventional product?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If no-one knows about this I will call them on Monday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian Hartgen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MSN: brian@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> SKYPE: brianhartgen
>>>>>>> SKYPE IN UK: 0208-133-7186
>>>>>>> SKYPE IN US: 213-985-3581
>>>>>>>
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