[access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers

  • From: "Vince Thacker" <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:06:51 +0100

For what it's worth, I'm using AVG Free Edition, and ZoneAlarm firewall, but also, SpywareBlaster, Spybot, and Ad-aware.

And in case the lodgeer is planning to blow up the central heating, I've also got Swat-it, which is a Trojean detector.

Over the top Well, all they cost me is the time to run them. That's a great deal less time now I've got a faster PC. As all the programs have a different approach, they all end up with something to do from time to time.

Occasionally I've just noticed that there's a file I don't recognise on my root directory or in \windows\system32, and usually I can find out on the Internet that it is indeed a malicious program, and I'll use any available removal fix. Sometimes that's just deleting one file.

Vince.
----- Original Message ----- From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 5:37 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers



HI Andy:

the latest version of nis does have spyware and adware, as does 2005 anti
spyware edition.

btw, you can, of course, use single issue software too, a spyware checker
virus checker, and an adware checker separately.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers



: Hi George.
:
: I have two large Tamworth pigs who have turned my garden into a swamp,
with
: all this rain we are having, though the mud they create is clearer than
your
: explanation, grin.
:
: But seriously, so I need a Firewall which only allows invited guests, An
: Anti-Virus to supervise them and a Spyware package to stop them from
: steeling information. That's three separate types of protection. Can you
: not get all of these in one package? Norton has Internet Security and
: Anti-Virus, but does it also have a spy checker? It's all rather
: complicated George, and makes me feel like not having a party in the first
: place. However, I do enjoy having the computer and talking to people like
: yourself. My Father-in-Law does not have any of these problems with his
: transistor radio in his garden shed!
:
:
: Best wishes.
: Andy
:
: ----- Original Message ----- : From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:15 PM
: Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
:
:
: > Hi Andy,
: >
: > Let my put it this way:
: >
: > A firewall on a PC is like a set of keys to your house. You
: > might have a front door key, a back door key, shed key,
: > garage key.
: >
: > A virus is like an unwelcome guest who walks in though an
: > unlocked door without your knowledge, has a meal and leaves
: > the place looking like a council tip, and walks back out
: > again. You end up having to redecorate.
: >
: > Now you can still let unwelcome guests into your house, but
: > if you are having a party, one or more might cause damage,
: > so the virus checker tries to stop anyone doing any damage.
: >
: >
: > However, there might still be guests around who sneak a look
: > in your drawers where you have your passport, household
: > bills and such like, and while they don't actually steal
: > your physical possessions, they make of note of all your
: > personal details, and use them in shops and such like,
: > pretending to be you. That's where "Spy" protection comes
: > in, better known as "Spyware Protection".
: >
: > Is the muddy water clearing any?
: >
: > George.
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue
: > Sent: 15 April 2006 18:02
: > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
: >
: > Hi George.
: >
: > Please forgive my ignoranceGeorge, but is a firewall not
: > the same thing as Anti-Virus? I've uninstalled Sygate
: > because I thought that the router was doing the same job as
: > Sygate was.
: >
: > Best wishes.
: > Andy
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > ----- Original Message -----
: > From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:20 PM
: > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
: >
: >
: > > Hi Andy,
: > >
: > > I very much doubt the Router will have any anti-virus
: > > software. What it most likely will have is a hardware
: > > firewall.
: > >
: > > George.
: > >
: > > -----Original Message-----
: > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue
: > > Sent: 15 April 2006 15:06
: > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
: > >
: > > Hi Andrew.
: > >
: > > So that's Norton on my computer and AVG on my wife's
: > > computer. She has the wireless card and my computer is
: > > plugged into the Router. The Router has it's own
: > anti-virus
: > > I believe.
: > >
: > > Best wishes.
: > >
: > > Andy
: > >
: > >
: > > ----- Original Message -----
: > > From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:20 AM
: > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
: > >
: > >
: > > > Hi Andy,
: > > >
: > > > I would remove AVG on the system if you have Norton
: > > enabled already.
: > > >
: > > > Andrew.
: > > >
: > > > -----Original Message-----
: > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
: > > > Of Andy Logue
: > > > Sent: 15 April 2006 10:11
: > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
: > > >
: > > > Hi Carol.
: > > >
: > > > One thing for sure Carol, any future computer thatI may
: > > purchase will
: > > > not
: > > > have Norton near it. You are right, it's just not worth
: > > the bother
: > > > trying
: > > > to get rid of it. At the moment, I have it enabled on
: > my
: > > computer along
: > > > with AVG and Pauline's computer has AVG. The Router has
: > > some kind of
: > > > anti-virus, and for the moment - fingers crossed, it
: > seems
: > > to be working
: > > > fine. I know now how to disable Norton from starting on
: > > boot-up, so if
: > > > I
: > > > get any problems with it, I'll simply turn it off.
: > > However, if I do
: > > > that,
: > > > I'll need to have some other form of internet security.
: > > Quite a lot of
: > > > mail is now suggesting that when purchasing a computer,
: > > it's best to
: > > > avoid
: > > > those like mine, which is a pc world package, and to
: > > purchase a blank
: > > > computer with nothing on it, and to buy a cd version of
: > > xp home or pro.
: > > > I
: > > > think that that is exactly what I'll do when I get my
: > new
: > > computer later
: > > > this year. Andrew and George have both provided details
: > > of computer
: > > > providers who will build a computer for you from scratch
: > > and I am
: > > > currently
: > > > checking these out. It was so easyin the old days after
: > > reformatting,
: > > > to
: > > > insert Windows 95 then all your drivers for printer,
: > > scanner etc. At
: > > > least
: > > > then, you knew what was on your computer.
: > > >
: > > > Best wishes.
: > > >
: > > > Andy
: > > >
: > > >
: > > >
: > > > ----- Original Message ----- : > > > From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:40 PM
: > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
: > > >
: > > >
: > > > > Sorry, Andy, I think it should be "Goodbye Norton".
: > It
: > > worked
: > > > > for me for a few years then, once it went wrong, it
: > just
: > > seemed
: > > > > to stay that way. I eventually, rather reluctantly,
: > > gave up the
: > > > > fight! After all, it's too much of a pain to remove!
: > > > >
: > > > > Just my thoughts!
: > > > >
: > > > > CAROL
: > > > >
: > > > >
: > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
: > > > > >From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > > > > >To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > > > > >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:21:20 +0100
: > > > > >Subject: [access-uk] Internet Security and Routers
: > > > >
: > > > > >Hi all.
: > > > >
: > > > > >At Christmas, I bought my wife a wireless router to
: > > enable her to
: > > > > go on the
: > > > > >internet with her computer, which is located
: > upstairs.
: > > She got a
: > > > > wireless
: > > > > >card installed. The router is downstairs and my
: > > computer is
: > > > > attached at
: > > > > >that point. Since getting this router I have had
: > > nothing but
: > > > > problems and
: > > > > >had to re-format several times. I've also had
: > problems
: > > getting
: > > > > rid of
: > > > > >Norton, which came with my computer. I re-formatted
: > on
: > > Sunday
: > > > > and this
: > > > > >time, rather than try to get rid of Norton and use
: > > Sygate and
: > > > > AVG, I decided
: > > > > >to just let Norton do it's stuff. Unfortunately,
: > when
: > > I did a
: > > > > live update,
: > > > > >my computer seemed to crash or stall. I decided to
: > > attempt to
: > > > > turn Norton
: > > > > >off and managed this, in terms of Internet Security
: > and
: > > Anti
: > > > > Virus. I then
: > > > > >installed Sygate and AVG and my old problems started
: > > again. So,
: > > > > eventually,
: > > > > >to my question. Is having a router perhaps causing
: > my
: > > problems.
: > > > > I mean,
: > > > > >is there any implications when using Sygate, AVG or
: > > Norton, when
: > > > > you are
: > > > > >attached via a Router.
: > > > >
: > > > > >I've really had it with this computer and fancy just
: > > visiting PC
: > > > > World to
: > > > > >get into dept again, but if the problems I am having
: > > are
: > > > > associated to my
: > > > > >Router, then a new computer would not resolve
: > anything.
: > > Any
: > > > > advise or ideas
: > > > > >would be very welcomed.
: > > > >
: > > > > >Best wishes.
: > > > >
: > > > > >Andy
: > > > >
: > > > >
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