HI . In my experience with pc world machines, and I've had a few, the Norton products are usually under something called active doc, which is a set of aps meant to help the user. In my experience there are usually two ways of installing xp on a Packard bell, one is with junk, and the other is without. which you have is determined using the choices offered during the initial recovery wizard. the Norton I saw on all the machines I had, one of which was a Packard bell, the other an advent and the third, my current laptop, which is a Toshiba, all have this stuff on it. the Norton internet security is usually 90 days trial. hth Hope to hear from you soon. From Martin. Please email me at: m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Or contact me using skype from www.skype.com my skype name is dobbinequine Thanks Please visit my website: www.martin-wilsher.co.uk ---Original Mes- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers : Hi Andy, : : I seem to remember you had a Packard Bell from PC world? : I : F so, then are you using a recovery disk to get data back onto the : computer? If so, I think this is where Norton is coming in. I have a : similar scenario with a Toshiba laptop. My advice is that if Norton is : on the machine, then uninstalling it can cause a larger headache then : just leaving it there. Additionally, I really wouldn't bother using : Sygate, as the router will do inbound protection for you, and if Norton : is still on the system, chances are that it is Norton Internet Security, : and contains a firewall. Norton may not update because if you activated : it several months ago, it may think the subscription is rapsed - do you : know how long the subscription was for? : : PC World are doing some very strange things with systems, like taking : companies like Toshiba who produce ok equipment, creating a separate PC : World specific model, putting loads of junk (usually a 90 day trial of : Norton Internet Security on it), then selling it to you with a recovery : disk where it is not possible to not install the junk in the first : place. : : As I said, if you can get Norton on there running after a clean recovery : I think this is the way to go. : : Thanks. : Andrew. : : -----Original Message----- : From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf : Of Andy Logue : Sent: 13 April 2006 13:21 : To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : Subject: [access-uk] Internet Security and Routers : : Hi all. : : At Christmas, I bought my wife a wireless router to enable her to go on : the : internet with her computer, which is located upstairs. She got a : wireless : card installed. The router is downstairs and my computer is attached at : that point. Since getting this router I have had nothing but problems : and : had to re-format several times. I've also had problems getting rid of : Norton, which came with my computer. I re-formatted on Sunday and this : time, rather than try to get rid of Norton and use Sygate and AVG, I : decided : to just let Norton do it's stuff. Unfortunately, when I did a live : update, : my computer seemed to crash or stall. I decided to attempt to turn : Norton : off and managed this, in terms of Internet Security and Anti Virus. I : then : installed Sygate and AVG and my old problems started again. So, : eventually, : to my question. Is having a router perhaps causing my problems. I : mean, : is there any implications when using Sygate, AVG or Norton, when you are : attached via a Router. : : I've really had it with this computer and fancy just visiting PC World : to : get into dept again, but if the problems I am having are associated to : my : Router, then a new computer would not resolve anything. 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