[access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
- From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 11:32:38 +0100
Hi George.
I have two large Tamworth pigs who have turned my garden into a swamp, with
all this rain we are having, though the mud they create is clearer than your
explanation, grin.
But seriously, so I need a Firewall which only allows invited guests, An
Anti-Virus to supervise them and a Spyware package to stop them from
steeling information. That's three separate types of protection. Can you
not get all of these in one package? Norton has Internet Security and
Anti-Virus, but does it also have a spy checker? It's all rather
complicated George, and makes me feel like not having a party in the first
place. However, I do enjoy having the computer and talking to people like
yourself. My Father-in-Law does not have any of these problems with his
transistor radio in his garden shed!
Best wishes.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
> Hi Andy,
>
> Let my put it this way:
>
> A firewall on a PC is like a set of keys to your house. You
> might have a front door key, a back door key, shed key,
> garage key.
>
> A virus is like an unwelcome guest who walks in though an
> unlocked door without your knowledge, has a meal and leaves
> the place looking like a council tip, and walks back out
> again. You end up having to redecorate.
>
> Now you can still let unwelcome guests into your house, but
> if you are having a party, one or more might cause damage,
> so the virus checker tries to stop anyone doing any damage.
>
>
> However, there might still be guests around who sneak a look
> in your drawers where you have your passport, household
> bills and such like, and while they don't actually steal
> your physical possessions, they make of note of all your
> personal details, and use them in shops and such like,
> pretending to be you. That's where "Spy" protection comes
> in, better known as "Spyware Protection".
>
> Is the muddy water clearing any?
>
> George.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue
> Sent: 15 April 2006 18:02
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
>
> Hi George.
>
> Please forgive my ignoranceGeorge, but is a firewall not
> the same thing as Anti-Virus? I've uninstalled Sygate
> because I thought that the router was doing the same job as
> Sygate was.
>
> Best wishes.
> Andy
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:20 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
>
>
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > I very much doubt the Router will have any anti-virus
> > software. What it most likely will have is a hardware
> > firewall.
> >
> > George.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue
> > Sent: 15 April 2006 15:06
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
> >
> > Hi Andrew.
> >
> > So that's Norton on my computer and AVG on my wife's
> > computer. She has the wireless card and my computer is
> > plugged into the Router. The Router has it's own
> anti-virus
> > I believe.
> >
> > Best wishes.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:20 AM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
> >
> >
> > > Hi Andy,
> > >
> > > I would remove AVG on the system if you have Norton
> > enabled already.
> > >
> > > Andrew.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > > Of Andy Logue
> > > Sent: 15 April 2006 10:11
> > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
> > >
> > > Hi Carol.
> > >
> > > One thing for sure Carol, any future computer thatI may
> > purchase will
> > > not
> > > have Norton near it. You are right, it's just not worth
> > the bother
> > > trying
> > > to get rid of it. At the moment, I have it enabled on
> my
> > computer along
> > > with AVG and Pauline's computer has AVG. The Router has
> > some kind of
> > > anti-virus, and for the moment - fingers crossed, it
> seems
> > to be working
> > > fine. I know now how to disable Norton from starting on
> > boot-up, so if
> > > I
> > > get any problems with it, I'll simply turn it off.
> > However, if I do
> > > that,
> > > I'll need to have some other form of internet security.
> > Quite a lot of
> > > mail is now suggesting that when purchasing a computer,
> > it's best to
> > > avoid
> > > those like mine, which is a pc world package, and to
> > purchase a blank
> > > computer with nothing on it, and to buy a cd version of
> > xp home or pro.
> > > I
> > > think that that is exactly what I'll do when I get my
> new
> > computer later
> > > this year. Andrew and George have both provided details
> > of computer
> > > providers who will build a computer for you from scratch
> > and I am
> > > currently
> > > checking these out. It was so easyin the old days after
> > reformatting,
> > > to
> > > insert Windows 95 then all your drivers for printer,
> > scanner etc. At
> > > least
> > > then, you knew what was on your computer.
> > >
> > > Best wishes.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 11:40 PM
> > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Internet Security and Routers
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sorry, Andy, I think it should be "Goodbye Norton".
> It
> > worked
> > > > for me for a few years then, once it went wrong, it
> just
> > seemed
> > > > to stay that way. I eventually, rather reluctantly,
> > gave up the
> > > > fight! After all, it's too much of a pain to remove!
> > > >
> > > > Just my thoughts!
> > > >
> > > > CAROL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:21:20 +0100
> > > > >Subject: [access-uk] Internet Security and Routers
> > > >
> > > > >Hi all.
> > > >
> > > > >At Christmas, I bought my wife a wireless router to
> > enable her to
> > > > go on the
> > > > >internet with her computer, which is located
> upstairs.
> > She got a
> > > > wireless
> > > > >card installed. The router is downstairs and my
> > computer is
> > > > attached at
> > > > >that point. Since getting this router I have had
> > nothing but
> > > > problems and
> > > > >had to re-format several times. I've also had
> problems
> > getting
> > > > rid of
> > > > >Norton, which came with my computer. I re-formatted
> on
> > Sunday
> > > > and this
> > > > >time, rather than try to get rid of Norton and use
> > Sygate and
> > > > AVG, I decided
> > > > >to just let Norton do it's stuff. Unfortunately,
> when
> > I did a
> > > > live update,
> > > > >my computer seemed to crash or stall. I decided to
> > attempt to
> > > > turn Norton
> > > > >off and managed this, in terms of Internet Security
> and
> > Anti
> > > > Virus. I then
> > > > >installed Sygate and AVG and my old problems started
> > again. So,
> > > > eventually,
> > > > >to my question. Is having a router perhaps causing
> my
> > problems.
> > > > I mean,
> > > > >is there any implications when using Sygate, AVG or
> > Norton, when
> > > > you are
> > > > >attached via a Router.
> > > >
> > > > >I've really had it with this computer and fancy just
> > visiting PC
> > > > World to
> > > > >get into dept again, but if the problems I am having
> > are
> > > > associated to my
> > > > >Router, then a new computer would not resolve
> anything.
> > Any
> > > > advise or ideas
> > > > >would be very welcomed.
> > > >
> > > > >Best wishes.
> > > >
> > > > >Andy
> > > >
> > > >
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