[access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
- From: Karl Proud <karl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 21:52:14 +0100
Angel, I think you are exactly right, my 30 years as a sighted person and 13
years as a blind one has taught me that low expectations are killing off much
more potential than technology gaps. I am stunned at how passive the learning
process is for blind people which stalls the gaining of flexibility and problem
solving skills - this is something I see in academic life.
Karl
On 22 May 2014, at 09:10 pm, "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
When my daughter was four years old, (this is in the United States) I
discovered she had to be able to read and to write her name by the time she
began her formal schooling. This was also thirty-seven years ago too.
As I was unable to teach her to print her name, nor was I able to teach to her
her colors, I sent her to preschool to learn those things. Also, by the way,
she is sighted. Then, I ask, why shouldn't a blind child have to be able to
read and to write his name in Braille by the time he is five years old. Though
in fairness, we learned to do these things when we were in first grade. But,
it begins at that early level. That we blind people just aren't expected to
learn at the same level as our sighted counterparts, and continues throughout
life.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Martha Burke"
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Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:47 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? - News
- Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
> Aren't they Norman? I know where I went to school 4 year olds were
> introduced to it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Norman Waddington
> Sent: 22 May 2014 15:41
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
> Clive,
>
> Sighted kids usually are introduced to letters at say 4 years of age. Why
> should a blind child not be introduced to grade 1 Braille at the same age?
>
> Norman.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: 22 May 2014 14:48
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
>> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>>
>> Hello Norman,
>>
>> I remember studying at Enbridge Place, whilst my brother, 20 years younger
>> was at primary school age. I rang the headmistress to arrange to visit him
>> at a weekend. I asked whether I could bring something to help with his
>> learning, such as a Braille book, as I was passing the RNIB shop en route.
>> She was horrified: "Braille? You don't teach a blind child of seven to
>> read Braille! They're not ready!". I told her I started learning at five
>> and was studying to be a computer programmer, and asked her where was her
>> evidence that no child would be ready to learn it at my brother's age? She
>> reacted rather like a rabbit in the headlights."
>>
>> Best,
>> Clive
>>
>>
>>
>> Clive Lever
>> Diversity and Equality Officer
>> Kent County Council
>>
>> Office: 01622 221163
>> Email: clive.lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> Kent County Council
>> Room G37
>> Sessions House
>> Maidstone, Kent.
>> ME14 1XQ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Norman Waddington
>> Sent: 22 May 2014 14:07
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
>> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>>
>> Jackie,
>>
>> One of the problems is the fact that if something is not used it is not
>> used Braille Shorthand being a good example. I can read it and write it
>> and I am prepared to teach it. People tell me there is no demand these
>> days for Braille shorthand. Once I have gone the skill will be lost if it
>> is not passed on to others to keep it going point made?
>>
>> Another point is the fact that authorities decide when Braille should be
>> introduced to kids at school. Surely the sooner the better. If we get
>> power cuts what will they do then? No analog skills are being taught as
>> far as I can see to a greater or lesser extent!
>>
>> Norman.
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf Of Jackie Brown
>> > Sent: 21 May 2014 16:59
>> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of
>> > Braille? - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>> >
>> > I just get really irritated over the misconceptions Braille and
>> > blindness cause. I've read bits and pieces in the past with people
>> > forecasting the imminent demise of Braille. Obviously demand will
>> > fade away if people stop using it, but I think we are a long way from
>> > that, digital age or not.
>> >
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Jackie Brown
>> > Twitter: @thebrownsplace
>> > Skype: Thejackmate
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> > Behalf Of Gordon Keen
>> > Sent: 21 May 2014 16:21
>> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of
>> > Braille? - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>> >
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > Yes that was my take on the article as well, however I decided to post
>> > the article as I felt that some might want to visit the exhibition
>> > with a view to expressing their opinion once they had actually > attended.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > G
>> >
>> > From Bridgerule in glorious Devon, England.
>> > .
>> >
>> > On 21 May 2014, at 15:44, Iain Lackie
>> > <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I wasn't aware that the journalist was dismissing braille. If
>> > > anything,
>> > the professor was concerned that blind people were being denied access
>> > to braille due to the rise of the use of other digital sources of
>> > information.
>> > I think it unfair to blame the journalist for expressing the fears of
>> > someone else. If braille is not taught, of course it will die out. I
>> > have to say that even as a braille user, I read much less braille than
>> > I used to.
>> > I
>> > don't read any less, however.
>> > >
>> > > Iain
>> > >
>> >
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