[access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
- From: "Norman Waddington" <normanwaddington504@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 18:07:01 +0100
Hi Karl,
It is nothing to worry about! It is just like learning a different way of
reading and writing. I am sure if you want to do this people would be only
too pleased to help you.
Think about this and I am sure you would gain with another skill under your
belt.
Norman.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Karl Proud
> Sent: 22 May 2014 18:03
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
>
> Norman, Eleanor, Thanks for the information. I've thought about learning
> braille just for the fun of it but there's always something else on the
> worry horizon.
>
> Karl
>
> On 22 May 2014, at 05:55 pm, "Norman Waddington"
> <normanwaddington504@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Karl,
>
> Most of the letters stand for something in the Braille system.
>
> Norman.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Karl Proud
> > Sent: 22 May 2014 17:45
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille?
> -
> > News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
> >
> > Eleanor,
> > You are correct of course, my position wasn't that braille isn't good at
> > working for some people, just that it requires a learning curve that can
> > be a waste of time if it doesn't provide a personal ambition. So, does
> a
> > K letter in braille always stand for the word knowledge? You learn
> > something new every day.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > On 22 May 2014, at 04:44 pm, "Eleanor Martha Burke"
> > <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Karl, if I had to write the word knowledge on a Braille machine/keyboard
> I
> > would write the letter k. If I had to do same on a qwerty keyboard I
> > would
> > have to write knowledge. I think a single character in my example is
> much
> > faster.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Karl Proud
> > Sent: 22 May 2014 16:36
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille?
> -
> > News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
> >
> > George,
> > All great points of course, but they don't take into account the
> > opportunity
> > cost of learning braille to a high standard. You mention that using
> grade
> > 2
> > braille is quicker than using a qwerty keyboard for writing notes, but
> not
> > if a keyboard is already something you have experienced - would you
> argue
> > that it would be always worth learning if one can already do the things
> > you
> > need using a keyboard? My point is that learning of braille should be
> > seen
> > as a personal choice rather than as a definitive sign of being a
> > productive
> > blind person. Too many discussions conflate braille use with literacy
> or
> > independence.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > On 22 May 2014, at 02:36 pm, George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > An interesting discussion.
> >
> > Perhaps surprising to some is that braille awareness is actually on the
> > increase.
> >
> > However, like many things, how and where it is used is changing, just
> like
> > many other day to day things. For example, print book sales have fallen
> > because we have devices such as the Kindle. But that doesn't mean we
> stop
> > using printed paper altogether.
> >
> > Braille itself badly needed an overhaul, but finally we have Unified
> > English
> > Braille, or UEB, which has now been adopted by all major English
> speaking
> > countries. Few may believe it, but this should have the effect of
> > recusing
> > cost of production.
> >
> > When it comes to taking notes, grade 2 braille is much faster than using
> a
> > qwerty keyboard.
> > Study of subjects like mathematics and chemistry are usually much easier
> > to
> > understand when produced in braille.
> > Simple labelling is another area where braille comes into its own.
> > For many braille readers, they find they enjoy reading braille books as
> > opposed to falling asleep listening to a talking book.
> >
> > And a fact that is as important as any, is that there are far more
> braille
> > users employed that those who are not.
> >
> > George.
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