[access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? - News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent

  • From: "Norman Waddington" <normanwaddington504@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 17:55:47 +0100

Karl,

Most of the letters stand for something in the Braille system.

Norman.

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> Eleanor,
> You are correct of course, my position wasn't that braille isn't good at
> working for some people, just that it requires a learning curve that can
> be a waste of time if it doesn't provide a personal ambition.  So, does a
> K letter in braille always stand for the word knowledge?  You learn
> something new every day.
> 
> Karl
> 
> On 22 May 2014, at 04:44 pm, "Eleanor Martha Burke"
> <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Karl, if I had to write the word knowledge on a Braille machine/keyboard I
> would write the letter k.  If I had to do same on a qwerty keyboard I
> would
> have to write knowledge.  I think a single character in my example is much
> faster.
> 
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> Karl Proud
> Sent: 22 May 2014 16:36
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Does the digital age spell the end of Braille? -
> News - Gadgets and Tech - The Independent
> 
> George,
> All great points of course, but they don't take into account the
> opportunity
> cost of learning braille to a high standard.  You mention that using grade
> 2
> braille is quicker than using a qwerty keyboard for writing notes, but not
> if a keyboard is already something you have experienced - would you argue
> that it would be always worth learning if one can already do the things
> you
> need using a keyboard?  My point is that learning of braille should be
> seen
> as a personal choice rather than as a definitive sign of being a
> productive
> blind person.  Too many discussions conflate braille use with literacy or
> independence.
> 
> Karl
> 
> 
> On 22 May 2014, at 02:36 pm, George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> An interesting discussion.
> 
> Perhaps surprising to some is that braille awareness is actually on the
> increase.
> 
> However, like many things, how and where it is used is changing, just like
> many other day to day things.  For example, print book sales have fallen
> because we have devices such as the Kindle.  But that doesn't mean we stop
> using printed paper altogether.
> 
> Braille itself badly needed an overhaul, but finally we have Unified
> English
> Braille, or UEB, which has now been adopted by all major English speaking
> countries.  Few may believe it, but this should have the effect of
> recusing
> cost of production.
> 
> When it comes to taking notes, grade 2 braille is much faster than using a
> qwerty keyboard.
> Study of subjects like mathematics and chemistry are usually much easier
> to
> understand when produced in braille.
> Simple labelling is another area where braille comes into its own.
> For many braille readers, they find they enjoy reading braille books as
> opposed to falling asleep listening to a talking book.
> 
> And a fact that is as important as any, is that there are far more braille
> users employed that those who are not.
> 
> George.
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