[access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
- From: "Mike Moore" <mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:37:13 -0000
Hi,
Thanks Andy; sorry Ibrahim, I had asked about the apps, for my own selfish
purpose!
I think that it is ridiculous how expensive items are. For example, the
talking book service, where a new cd is posted every time, to each person,
then the disk is shredded and recycled, as it cannot be posted out to
another person.
Would it not be easier to print your address on the sleeve, their address on
the disk and hey presto, they could use it for more than once?.. or download
for those who can?
Perhaps then the pricing of other items could be reduced, rather than
subsidising this extremely wasteful provision.
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Iain Lackie
Sent: 05 February 2012 14:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
the really annoying thing about this is that there is such a disparity
between the price of large print playing cards and Braille. I don?t really
believe it myself, but it adds fuel to those who say RNIB isn?t actually
really as concerned with the ?blind?, I.e. those who have no sight, as it
should be. the same is true with regard to easy-to-se as opposed to tactile
watches.
Iain
From: Eleanor Burke <mailto:eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:40 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
RNIB prices seem a lot higher than the same products elsewhere.
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From: Tom <mailto:tlorimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
I've just had a look at the Sense website and they are offering a set of
brailled playing cards for £2 94.
Oddly enough the supplier is the RNIB.
The Sense website seems to be up to date but the playing card offer might be
out of date, but might still be worth looking into.
http://www.sense.org.uk/help_and_advice/people_who_are_deafblind/equipment_a
nd_accessibility/games/large_print_braille_cards
Tom.
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From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu <mailto:ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:06 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
Hi Mike.
I have a set of playing cards which must be 15 years old or more, I?ve had
them since I was a child and used them regularly. The cards come in a
sturdy cardboard box and the braille dots though very faint on some of them
are still quite legible. If RNIB are putting braille cards in a tin to
protect the dots and they think this is an acceptable reason to charge over
double what the print cards sell for, they?re clearly desperate to add value
to these to justify the price. The packaging makes little or no difference
to the cards since if you use them on a regular basis the dots will become
flattened and fainter over time anyway, a tin isn?t going to make the
slightest difference to that. If RNIB were to sell a set of plastic like
cards which were robust and sturdy instead of the flimsy cardboard ones they
sell, then I could perhaps justify spending that on a set. As you say
though, I?m probably going to have to buy a decent set myself and have them
brailed with sighted assistance.
All the best, Ibrahim.
From: Mike Moore <mailto:mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:36 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
Ibrahim,
Obviously you have failed to take into regard the high quality box the cards
come in..... though it is to protect the less than sufficient quality of the
playing cards, so the bumps don't get flattened!!
It's a sod, but I agree with Peter, buy a good quality set of cards, the
vinyl ones which will give a good sharpness of Braille and mark them
yourself. You can also come up with a better system of ID..
Kindest,
Mike
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 05 February 2012 10:11
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Chancing the cards?
Hi Everyone.
I know we?ve discussed games on here in the past, so I thought I?d raise
this issue as it raises my hackles somewhat. I was on the RNIB online shop
this morning looking for brailed playing cards, and was shocked to discover
that these cards cost £7.26, while the standard printed cards cost less than
half this at £3.5. For an organisation that claims to promote equal access,
this is hardly an encouragement to take up a new hobbies or interest as it
penalises those of us who must use braille. A couple of sets of these cards
would set me back a Wapping £14.5, an outrageous amount of money considering
that the work required to adapt these cards IE putting a suit and numeric
denominator on each hardly merits such an inflated price. Thoughts anyone?
All the best, Ibrahim.
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