[access-uk] Re: Talking Book service, was, Chancing the cards?
- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 15:40:17 -0000
Hi Mike
You raise a really interesting point about the extreme wastefulness of the
way talking books are sent out. Why on earth can't you now download
whatever talking books you like if you belong to the service? Martin is an
avid reader, and gets through a lot of talking books. Each week, he posts
two or three back, and they end up in the bin in the method you describe.
In this day and age, why is it not possible for each member to have a
username and password, and be able to download the book(s) they wish to
receive, and put them onto their player directly? Why has it taken RNIB so
long to get this promised service up and running?
I'll get down off my soap-box now! ()smile).
Kind Regards,
Jackie Cairns
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mike Moore
Sent: 05 February 2012 14:37
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talking Book service, was, Chancing the cards?
Hi,
Thanks Andy; sorry Ibrahim, I had asked about the apps, for my own selfish
purpose!
I think that it is ridiculous how expensive items are. For example, the
talking book service, where a new cd is posted every time, to each person,
then the disk is shredded and recycled, as it cannot be posted out to
another person.
Would it not be easier to print your address on the sleeve, their address on
the disk and hey presto, they could use it for more than once?.. or download
for those who can?
Perhaps then the pricing of other items could be reduced, rather than
subsidising this extremely wasteful provision.
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Iain Lackie
Sent: 05 February 2012 14:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
the really annoying thing about this is that there is such a disparity
between the price of large print playing cards and Braille. I don?t really
believe it myself, but it adds fuel to those who say RNIB isn?t actually
really as concerned with the ?blind?, I.e. those who have no sight, as it
should be. the same is true with regard to easy-to-se as opposed to tactile
watches.
Iain
From: Eleanor Burke <mailto:eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:40 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
RNIB prices seem a lot higher than the same products elsewhere.
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From: Tom <mailto:tlorimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
I've just had a look at the Sense website and they are offering a
set of brailled playing cards for £2 94.
Oddly enough the supplier is the RNIB.
The Sense website seems to be up to date but the playing card offer
might be out of date, but might still be worth looking into.
http://www.sense.org.uk/help_and_advice/people_who_are_deafblind/equipment_a
nd_accessibility/games/large_print_braille_cards
Tom.
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From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu <mailto:ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:06 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
Hi Mike.
I have a set of playing cards which must be 15 years old or
more, I?ve had them since I was a child and used them regularly. The cards
come in a sturdy cardboard box and the braille dots though very faint on
some of them are still quite legible. If RNIB are putting braille cards in
a tin to protect the dots and they think this is an acceptable reason to
charge over double what the print cards sell for, they?re clearly desperate
to add value to these to justify the price. The packaging makes little or
no difference to the cards since if you use them on a regular basis the dots
will become flattened and fainter over time anyway, a tin isn?t going to
make the slightest difference to that. If RNIB were to sell a set of
plastic like cards which were robust and sturdy instead of the flimsy
cardboard ones they sell, then I could perhaps justify spending that on a
set. As you say though, I?m probably going to have to buy a decent set
myself and have them brailed with sighted assistance.
All the best, Ibrahim.
From: Mike Moore <mailto:mikeis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:36 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?
Ibrahim,
Obviously you have failed to take into regard the high
quality box the cards come in..... though it is to protect the less than
sufficient quality of the playing cards, so the bumps don't get flattened!!
It's a sod, but I agree with Peter, buy a good quality set
of cards, the vinyl ones which will give a good sharpness of Braille and
mark them yourself. You can also come up with a better system of ID..
Kindest,
Mike
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 05 February 2012 10:11
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Chancing the cards?
Hi Everyone.
I know we?ve discussed games on here in the past, so I
thought I?d raise this issue as it raises my hackles somewhat. I was on the
RNIB online shop this morning looking for brailed playing cards, and was
shocked to discover that these cards cost £7.26, while the standard printed
cards cost less than half this at £3.5. For an organisation that claims to
promote equal access, this is hardly an encouragement to take up a new
hobbies or interest as it penalises those of us who must use braille. A
couple of sets of these cards would set me back a Wapping £14.5, an
outrageous amount of money considering that the work required to adapt these
cards IE putting a suit and numeric denominator on each hardly merits such
an inflated price. Thoughts anyone?
All the best, Ibrahim.
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