[access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?

  • From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:27:32 -0000

the really annoying thing about this is that there is such a disparity between 
the price of large print playing cards and Braille. I don’t really believe it 
myself, but it adds fuel to those who say RNIB isn’t actually really as 
concerned with the “blind”, I.e. those who have no sight, as it should be. the 
same is true with regard to easy-to-se as opposed to tactile watches.

Iain

From: Eleanor Burke 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:40 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?

RNIB prices seem a lot higher than the same products elsewhere.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:18 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?

  I've just had a look at the Sense website and they are offering a set of 
brailled playing cards for £2 94.
  Oddly enough the supplier is the RNIB.
  The Sense website seems to be up to date but the playing card offer might be 
out of date, but might still be worth looking into.

  
http://www.sense.org.uk/help_and_advice/people_who_are_deafblind/equipment_and_accessibility/games/large_print_braille_cards

  Tom.



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 12:06 PM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?

    Hi Mike.

    I have a set of playing cards which must be 15 years old or more, I’ve had 
them since I was a child and used them regularly.  The cards come in a sturdy 
cardboard box and the braille dots though very faint on some of them are still 
quite legible.  If RNIB are putting braille cards in a tin to protect the dots 
and they think this is an acceptable reason to charge over double what the 
print cards sell for, they’re clearly desperate to add value to these to 
justify the price.  The packaging makes little or no difference to the cards 
since if you use them on a regular basis the dots will become flattened and 
fainter over time anyway, a tin isn’t going to make the slightest difference to 
that.  If RNIB were to sell a set of plastic like cards which were robust and 
sturdy instead of the flimsy cardboard ones they sell, then I could perhaps 
justify spending that on a set.  As you say though, I’m probably going to have 
to buy a decent set myself and have them brailed with sighted assistance.

    All the best, Ibrahim.

    From: Mike Moore 
    Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:36 AM
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: Chancing the cards?

    Ibrahim,

    Obviously you have failed to take into regard the high quality box the 
cards come in..... though it is to protect the less than sufficient quality of 
the playing cards, so the bumps don't get flattened!!

    It's a sod, but I agree with Peter, buy a good quality set of cards, the 
vinyl ones which will give a good sharpness of Braille and mark them yourself.  
You can also come up with a better system of ID..

    Kindest,

    Mike



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    From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
    Sent: 05 February 2012 10:11
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [access-uk] Chancing the cards?


    Hi Everyone.

    I know we’ve discussed games on here in the past, so I thought I’d raise 
this issue as it raises my hackles somewhat.  I was on the RNIB online shop 
this morning looking for brailed playing cards, and was shocked to discover 
that these cards cost £7.26, while the standard printed cards cost less than 
half this at £3.5.  For an organisation that claims to promote equal access, 
this is hardly an encouragement to take up a new hobbies or interest as it 
penalises those of us who must use braille.  A couple of sets of these cards 
would set me back a Wapping £14.5, an outrageous amount of money considering 
that the work required to adapt these cards IE putting a suit and numeric 
denominator on each hardly merits such an inflated price.  Thoughts anyone?

    All the best, Ibrahim.

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