I'm right there along with you on your rant now. I've accumulated five years of experience, which isn't bad. I have no certifications or anything. Hell, I never even graduated high school, but I know that I can run circles around almost all people with the papers. Luckily I can fall back on my "MVP" title to hide the fact that I don't have any MCS* papers. Now if I'd just get off my ass and try to find a new job... Until then, it doesn't really matter much. Ray at work > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer Hooper > Can I ask a really dumb question?? If this is the case, and > there are so many 'paper' MCSE's (I remember when that was a > major deal with CNE's too), then WHY on earth do so many > companies demand that people have them even to get an > interview?? ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor StressedPuppy.com Games Feeling stressed out? Check out our games to relieve your stress. http://www.StressedPuppy.com ******************************************************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm