Suspect it'smore Siemens then fujitsu technology in it all :-) On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:51:56 -0500, Jeff Malczewski <jeff.malczewski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Fujitsu servers? I hope they build them better than they build their > drives... > > On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:19:50 +0100, Nicolai Imset > <nicolai.imset@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I would give my vote to fujitsu siemens servers > > You probably don't have them in the u.s. though. > > > > Second to that would be HP/Comapq/Hpaq > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley, > > Brian > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:26 PM > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server > > > > I'm with you there James... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of James Lilly > > Sent: 24 January 2005 13:16 > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server > > > > They just want to sell you the door extenders for the 9000 > > series racks to make them as deep as the 10000 series. :) > > > > Another vote for HPaq servers, in various stints as a > > corporate employee and consultant, they have been the most > > reliable, most stable, and most managable that I have found > > out of the big three (IBM, Dell, HPaq). > > > > Of course, this is my personal experience, your mileage may > > vary. :) > > > > James > > > > >>> rslayden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 1/21/2005 12:43:00 PM >>> > > We use all Compaq/HP and have been reasonably satisfied with > > them. > > However, > > one recent "gotcha" to watch out for is the new DL380 > > servers don't fit in the older Compaq racks. Don't know the > > nomenclature of the older model racks, but the cable > > management arms on the newer DL380s protrudes farther and > > the rear door will not close. If you are buying newer > > DL380s, you need the newer racks or put them in the older > > racks and leave the rear doors off. > > Thanks for the "innovation" HP! <g> > > > > Rob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeff Malczewski [mailto:jeff.malczewski@xxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:39 AM > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server > > > > Another vote for IBM. I had a hard drive fail in a mirror > > two weeks ago.. > > I simply called them up, said "I have a bad hard drive, > > here's the FRU".. > > The following morning there was one sitting in reception for > > me when I got in.. I unplugged the bad one, plugged in the > > new one, threw it in the box, slapped on the pre-paid label, > > and the server was good as new in the time it too to rebuild > > the mirror. > > > > About 6 months ago I was in Atlanta working on systems in > > our office down there, and a motherboard went bad. Called > > IBM support, that box had > > 24x7x4 > > on it, so a tech showed up at 11:30 PM, the part was > > couriered over, arrived just before the tech, and the tech > > stayed there until the system was back up and 100% > > functional. He also allowed me to utilize some of his > > upgrade CDs to flash BIOS on other boxes before he left.. > > He stayed with me until 2:30 in the morning by the time we > > re-configured the on-board RAID controller (it was a 1U with > > a built-in RAID1 controller).. > > > > IBM may be a bit costlier than the other brands, but I'll > > never use anything else. We have all IBM in all three > > sites, about 60 servers in total, plus a bunch of laptops > > and most of our desktops. > > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:04:14 -0500, Jim Kerr > > <jim@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > IBM's support is just as good with their ThinkPad's too. > > I called > > > them because my battery wasn't holding a charge. 2 days > > later I had > > a > > > new one delivered to my door and received a prepaid > > sticker so I > > could > > > send the bad one back. The part I appreciated was not > > getting flack > > > > > when I told the support person I wanted a new battery. I > > guess the > > > saying "You get what you pay for" is true! > > > > > > In 6 months it could be totally different. Dells support > > might start > > > > > kicking butt while HP's suffers. It's one of those > > wonderful things > > > > > we have to deal with in this industry. > > > > > > :) > > > > > > Jim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Greg Reese > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:54 AM > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server > > > > > > I have always felt like there was a lot of ebb and flow > > between Dell > > > > > and HP/Compaq as to who makes things better or has better > > support. > > > Somtimes Dell is better, sometimes HP. > > > > > > We only buy IBM here. They may not be number one in all > > areas but > > > they stay consistent with what they do. Thier support has > > been good > > > > > to us for many years. We had an ancient netfinity 3000 > > start acting > > > > > goofy a while back. I called IBM with the messages and > > behavior we > > > were seeing. An hour later there was an IBM tech at my > > door with a > > > new motherboard under his arm. He replaced the > > motherboard, ran a > > > diagnostic, and the server was good as new. Took him 30 > > minutes tops > > > > > frorm the time he arrived. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:39:50 -0700, Steve Greenberg > > > <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have heard the same complaints lately along with very > > long wait > > > > times to get hardware on the order of two weeks...... > > > > > > > > But to be fair, most of our customers do use DELL and > > are happy > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Greenberg > > > > Thin Client Computing > > > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 > > > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262 > > > > (602) 432-8649 > > > > (602) 296-0411 fax > > > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > > > On Behalf Of Jim Kerr > > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:07 AM > > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only negative thing I hear these days is that Dell's > > support > > sucks. > > > The > > > > last several customers I have visited have told be they > > will never > > > > > > by Dell again. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Svein Arild Haugum > > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:08 AM > > > > Subject: [THIN] SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server > > > > > > > > > > > > I really dont think any brand offers anything the next > > one does'nt. > > > > > > > > > > Its more important to think "big picture", and have one > > > > brand/supplier to ease what management software you have > > to > > > > learn/monitor, have one support organization to call > > when needed > > and > > > > so on. Having 9 different brands depending on whats hot > > when you > > bought > > it will never pay off. > > > > > > > > I have use IBM for all hardware, but i cant figure out > > any > > technical > > > reason > > > > to use them over HP or Dell. 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