[THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
- From: Nicolai Imset <nicolai.imset@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:03:16 +0100
Suspect it'smore Siemens then fujitsu technology in it all :-)
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:51:56 -0500, Jeff Malczewski
<jeff.malczewski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Fujitsu servers? I hope they build them better than they build their
> drives...
>
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:19:50 +0100, Nicolai Imset
> <nicolai.imset@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I would give my vote to fujitsu siemens servers
> > You probably don't have them in the u.s. though.
> >
> > Second to that would be HP/Comapq/Hpaq
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley,
> > Brian
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:26 PM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
> >
> > I'm with you there James...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of James Lilly
> > Sent: 24 January 2005 13:16
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
> >
> > They just want to sell you the door extenders for the 9000
> > series racks to make them as deep as the 10000 series. :)
> >
> > Another vote for HPaq servers, in various stints as a
> > corporate employee and consultant, they have been the most
> > reliable, most stable, and most managable that I have found
> > out of the big three (IBM, Dell, HPaq).
> >
> > Of course, this is my personal experience, your mileage may
> > vary. :)
> >
> > James
> >
> > >>> rslayden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 1/21/2005 12:43:00 PM >>>
> > We use all Compaq/HP and have been reasonably satisfied with
> > them.
> > However,
> > one recent "gotcha" to watch out for is the new DL380
> > servers don't fit in the older Compaq racks. Don't know the
> > nomenclature of the older model racks, but the cable
> > management arms on the newer DL380s protrudes farther and
> > the rear door will not close. If you are buying newer
> > DL380s, you need the newer racks or put them in the older
> > racks and leave the rear doors off.
> > Thanks for the "innovation" HP! <g>
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Malczewski [mailto:jeff.malczewski@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:39 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
> >
> > Another vote for IBM. I had a hard drive fail in a mirror
> > two weeks ago..
> > I simply called them up, said "I have a bad hard drive,
> > here's the FRU"..
> > The following morning there was one sitting in reception for
> > me when I got in.. I unplugged the bad one, plugged in the
> > new one, threw it in the box, slapped on the pre-paid label,
> > and the server was good as new in the time it too to rebuild
> > the mirror.
> >
> > About 6 months ago I was in Atlanta working on systems in
> > our office down there, and a motherboard went bad. Called
> > IBM support, that box had
> > 24x7x4
> > on it, so a tech showed up at 11:30 PM, the part was
> > couriered over, arrived just before the tech, and the tech
> > stayed there until the system was back up and 100%
> > functional. He also allowed me to utilize some of his
> > upgrade CDs to flash BIOS on other boxes before he left..
> > He stayed with me until 2:30 in the morning by the time we
> > re-configured the on-board RAID controller (it was a 1U with
> > a built-in RAID1 controller)..
> >
> > IBM may be a bit costlier than the other brands, but I'll
> > never use anything else. We have all IBM in all three
> > sites, about 60 servers in total, plus a bunch of laptops
> > and most of our desktops.
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:04:14 -0500, Jim Kerr
> > <jim@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > IBM's support is just as good with their ThinkPad's too.
> > I called
> > > them because my battery wasn't holding a charge. 2 days
> > later I had
> > a
> > > new one delivered to my door and received a prepaid
> > sticker so I
> > could
> > > send the bad one back. The part I appreciated was not
> > getting flack
> >
> > > when I told the support person I wanted a new battery. I
> > guess the
> > > saying "You get what you pay for" is true!
> > >
> > > In 6 months it could be totally different. Dells support
> > might start
> >
> > > kicking butt while HP's suffers. It's one of those
> > wonderful things
> >
> > > we have to deal with in this industry.
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > Jim
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Greg Reese
> > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:54 AM
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
> > >
> > > I have always felt like there was a lot of ebb and flow
> > between Dell
> >
> > > and HP/Compaq as to who makes things better or has better
> > support.
> > > Somtimes Dell is better, sometimes HP.
> > >
> > > We only buy IBM here. They may not be number one in all
> > areas but
> > > they stay consistent with what they do. Thier support has
> > been good
> >
> > > to us for many years. We had an ancient netfinity 3000
> > start acting
> >
> > > goofy a while back. I called IBM with the messages and
> > behavior we
> > > were seeing. An hour later there was an IBM tech at my
> > door with a
> > > new motherboard under his arm. He replaced the
> > motherboard, ran a
> > > diagnostic, and the server was good as new. Took him 30
> > minutes tops
> >
> > > frorm the time he arrived.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:39:50 -0700, Steve Greenberg
> > > <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have heard the same complaints lately along with very
> > long wait
> > > > times to get hardware on the order of two weeks......
> > > >
> > > > But to be fair, most of our customers do use DELL and
> > are happy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve Greenberg
> > > > Thin Client Computing
> > > > 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
> > > > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > > > (602) 432-8649
> > > > (602) 296-0411 fax
> > > > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >
> > > > On Behalf Of Jim Kerr
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:07 AM
> > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The only negative thing I hear these days is that Dell's
> > support
> > sucks.
> > > The
> > > > last several customers I have visited have told be they
> > will never
> >
> > > > by Dell again.
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Svein Arild Haugum
> > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:08 AM
> > > > Subject: [THIN] SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I really dont think any brand offers anything the next
> > one does'nt.
> >
> > > >
> > > > Its more important to think "big picture", and have one
> > > > brand/supplier to ease what management software you have
> > to
> > > > learn/monitor, have one support organization to call
> > when needed
> > and
> > > > so on. Having 9 different brands depending on whats hot
> > when you
> > bought
> > it will never pay off.
> > > >
> > > > I have use IBM for all hardware, but i cant figure out
> > any
> > technical
> > > reason
> > > > to use them over HP or Dell. Same shit, different
> > wrapping.
> > > >
> > > > Mvh
> > > > Svein Arild
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > Fra: dmauri@xxxxxx [mailto:dmauri@xxxxxx]
> > > > Sendt: 21. januar 2005 09:57
> > > > Til: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Emne: [THIN] (OT)Advice to buy new server
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for a new server to run separated
> > applications from our
> >
> > > > farm, such a Compleo, label printing software and also
> > print server
> >
> > > > and
> > > others...
> > > > Our servers in the farm are Proliant in a rack system.
> > > > We're happy with them, but the new server I don't need
> > to integrate
> >
> > > > in a rack...
> > > > Could you pls. give to me any models that you are happy
> > and have a
> >
> > > > good performance to do this tasks?
> > > > Such as Xseries or Hp/compaq servers...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot.
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