[THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
- From: "Nicolai Imset" <nicolai.imset@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:19:50 +0100
I would give my vote to fujitsu siemens servers
You probably don't have them in the u.s. though.
Second to that would be HP/Comapq/Hpaq
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lilley,
Brian
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:26 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
I'm with you there James...
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of James Lilly
Sent: 24 January 2005 13:16
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
They just want to sell you the door extenders for the 9000
series racks to make them as deep as the 10000 series. :)
Another vote for HPaq servers, in various stints as a
corporate employee and consultant, they have been the most
reliable, most stable, and most managable that I have found
out of the big three (IBM, Dell, HPaq).
Of course, this is my personal experience, your mileage may
vary. :)
James
>>> rslayden@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 1/21/2005 12:43:00 PM >>>
We use all Compaq/HP and have been reasonably satisfied with
them.
However,
one recent "gotcha" to watch out for is the new DL380
servers don't fit in the older Compaq racks. Don't know the
nomenclature of the older model racks, but the cable
management arms on the newer DL380s protrudes farther and
the rear door will not close. If you are buying newer
DL380s, you need the newer racks or put them in the older
racks and leave the rear doors off.
Thanks for the "innovation" HP! <g>
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Malczewski [mailto:jeff.malczewski@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:39 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
Another vote for IBM. I had a hard drive fail in a mirror
two weeks ago..
I simply called them up, said "I have a bad hard drive,
here's the FRU"..
The following morning there was one sitting in reception for
me when I got in.. I unplugged the bad one, plugged in the
new one, threw it in the box, slapped on the pre-paid label,
and the server was good as new in the time it too to rebuild
the mirror.
About 6 months ago I was in Atlanta working on systems in
our office down there, and a motherboard went bad. Called
IBM support, that box had
24x7x4
on it, so a tech showed up at 11:30 PM, the part was
couriered over, arrived just before the tech, and the tech
stayed there until the system was back up and 100%
functional. He also allowed me to utilize some of his
upgrade CDs to flash BIOS on other boxes before he left..
He stayed with me until 2:30 in the morning by the time we
re-configured the on-board RAID controller (it was a 1U with
a built-in RAID1 controller)..
IBM may be a bit costlier than the other brands, but I'll
never use anything else. We have all IBM in all three
sites, about 60 servers in total, plus a bunch of laptops
and most of our desktops.
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:04:14 -0500, Jim Kerr
<jim@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> IBM's support is just as good with their ThinkPad's too.
I called
> them because my battery wasn't holding a charge. 2 days
later I had
a
> new one delivered to my door and received a prepaid
sticker so I
could
> send the bad one back. The part I appreciated was not
getting flack
> when I told the support person I wanted a new battery. I
guess the
> saying "You get what you pay for" is true!
>
> In 6 months it could be totally different. Dells support
might start
> kicking butt while HP's suffers. It's one of those
wonderful things
> we have to deal with in this industry.
>
> :)
>
> Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Greg Reese
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:54 AM
> Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
>
> I have always felt like there was a lot of ebb and flow
between Dell
> and HP/Compaq as to who makes things better or has better
support.
> Somtimes Dell is better, sometimes HP.
>
> We only buy IBM here. They may not be number one in all
areas but
> they stay consistent with what they do. Thier support has
been good
> to us for many years. We had an ancient netfinity 3000
start acting
> goofy a while back. I called IBM with the messages and
behavior we
> were seeing. An hour later there was an IBM tech at my
door with a
> new motherboard under his arm. He replaced the
motherboard, ran a
> diagnostic, and the server was good as new. Took him 30
minutes tops
> frorm the time he arrived.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:39:50 -0700, Steve Greenberg
> <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > I have heard the same complaints lately along with very
long wait
> > times to get hardware on the order of two weeks......
> >
> > But to be fair, most of our customers do use DELL and
are happy
> >
> >
> > Steve Greenberg
> > Thin Client Computing
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> > Scottsdale, AZ 85262
> > (602) 432-8649
> > (602) 296-0411 fax
> > steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Jim Kerr
> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:07 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
> >
> >
> >
> > The only negative thing I hear these days is that Dell's
support
sucks.
> The
> > last several customers I have visited have told be they
will never
> > by Dell again.
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Svein Arild Haugum
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:08 AM
> > Subject: [THIN] SV: (OT)Advice to buy new server
> >
> >
> > I really dont think any brand offers anything the next
one does'nt.
> >
> > Its more important to think "big picture", and have one
> > brand/supplier to ease what management software you have
to
> > learn/monitor, have one support organization to call
when needed
and
> > so on. Having 9 different brands depending on whats hot
when you
bought
it will never pay off.
> >
> > I have use IBM for all hardware, but i cant figure out
any
technical
> reason
> > to use them over HP or Dell. Same shit, different
wrapping.
> >
> > Mvh
> > Svein Arild
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Fra: dmauri@xxxxxx [mailto:dmauri@xxxxxx]
> > Sendt: 21. januar 2005 09:57
> > Til: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Emne: [THIN] (OT)Advice to buy new server
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm looking for a new server to run separated
applications from our
> > farm, such a Compleo, label printing software and also
print server
> > and
> others...
> > Our servers in the farm are Proliant in a rack system.
> > We're happy with them, but the new server I don't need
to integrate
> > in a rack...
> > Could you pls. give to me any models that you are happy
and have a
> > good performance to do this tasks?
> > Such as Xseries or Hp/compaq servers...
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
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