At 07:43 PM 12/5/2005 -0600, hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >Since I have finished dogs in both rings..I am speaking from experience. >Just for clarification...two wrongs don't make a right..dragging toes and >dead tails are just as faulty in my eyes as weak backs, straight pasterns, >improper shoulders and a lack of PROPER rear angulation.. Rewarding dogs >that lack the motion that is unique to our breed because of insufficiencies >is as incorrect as rewarding dragging toes, over angulation. Neither can be >correct when viewed from the side. If movement is not important..then >perhaps when need to just photograph our dogs..place the pictures on a >table and ask the judge to pick the prettiest dog with the most shapely >outline and that has the reddest pigment from a picture. To me..many(but >not all) all-rounders don't appreciate side gait..and why would they? How >many other breeds place as much emphasis on sidegait and go into the depth >of describing sidegait as our breed standard does? Most other breeds are in >fact simply judged on coming and going, standing and overall appearance and >presentation.C.Grainger we are on the same page...... The original post (question) has taken a turn LOL Daleen Dunphy Amaleen German Shepherds "Where Temperament, Type and Movement all come together" http://www.geocities.com/amaleengsd List Owner of <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gsdbreeders/>"GSD<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gsdbreeders/> Breeders Group" RingMaster of <http://f.webring.com/hub?ring=germanshepherdd4&id=1&hub>"The GermanShepherdDog Ring" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================