The main difference between specialty and all breed ring is the difference between specialty and all breed judges-requirements for specialty judge [when I applied] 10 years in the breed as a participant Have bred at least two Champions or owned I can't remember. Take a test which is easy just read the standard and have judged a certain number of specialty matches be interviewed by AKC rep. and observed [for procedure] in I think 3 shows. Requirements for all breed judges lic. -- have several herding breeds go to seminars and apply for the rest of the herding group. Now I may have missed something but nothing of importance....... Fred Migliore ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================