I always disliked the shirt pocket adage to the camera, and that's why I mentioned practically for all intents and purposes its as easy to travel with an M3 for example. The M3 is a little bigger and heavier not so much that you would notice the average man that is, howerver, the advantages of a M3 far out wieght the negatives in comparison to a Rollei 35. I would love to be proven wrong by viewing good portaits or documentary taken with a 35. Marvin. Sent via BlackBerry® from 3 -----Original Message----- From: Frédéric Fichter <ffichter@xxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:06:17 To:rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei 35S, SE As much as I like the Rollei 35, it is way too heavy to fit into my shirt pocket (+300g) Fred On Monday, October 01, 2007, at 03:01PM, "Carlos Manuel Freaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >The Rollei 35 is an excellent travel companion when >the travel main purpose is not to take photographs >(I'd use the TLR if the travel purpose is to take >photographs), you can put the Rollei 35 into yur shirt >or pants pocket, it has a very accurate Cds coupled >lightmeter and then you don't need an external one, >BTW you have your images registered in full frames >35mm film, no problem with files formats and diske >space. > >Carlos > > >--- marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx escribió: > >> I don't think that analogy is true. I am a fan of >> the Rollei TLR and with good reason, its the best or >> one of the best 120 ever made. I don't think the >> same can be said of the 35 in the 135 format. >> However, I can imagine for applications such as >> mounaineering it is excellent. >> Please also note that the 35 is not used in a wide >> range of photo applications, compare this with >> Rollei TLRs which are used widely with applications >> other than close up. >> This is the heart of my point. >> Thanks, >> Marvin. >> Sent via BlackBerry® from 3 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ERoustom <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:02:00 >> To:rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei 35S, SE >> >> >> Gee Marv, you just did the equivalent of walking >> into a biker bar >> shouting something about those dumb noisy two >> wheelers you have to >> run over all the time. >> >> E. >> >> On Oct 1, 2007, at 7:46 AM, marvin0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> wrote: >> >> > I will concede that several people insist they are >> as accurate with >> > the zone focus on a Rollei 35 as most are with RF >> on other cameras, >> > something I am not and which obviously clouds my >> view of the 35 >> > with its limiting zone focus >> > In order to answer your question Mark Rabner there >> would be Little >> > point in me discussing the merits of the 35 if I >> had not tried one. >> > Regards, >> > Marvin. >> > Sent via BlackBerry® from 3 >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >> > Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:07:14 >> > To:<rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei 35S, SE >> > >> > >> >> Richard on a general level taking into account >> personal styles, I >> >> wouldn't say >> >> useless but I would say very limiting, making >> them a speacilist >> >> tool for >> >> certain types of photography static subjects and >> the like. >> >> And on a personal level depent upon my >> photographic preferences I >> >> would say >> >> yes USELESS. >> >> I also don't think the 35 is a great ergonomic >> design a thought >> >> echoed by >> >> Steven Gandy on the Camera Quest website. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marvin. >> >> >> > >> > >> > Have you shot a roll with one? >> > >> > Mark William Rabiner >> > rabinergroup.com >> > >> > >> > --- >> > Rollei List >> > >> > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' >> > in the subject field OR by logging into >> www.freelists.org >> > >> > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with >> > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging >> into >> > www.freelists.org >> > >> > - Online, searchable archives are available at >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> > >> > --- >> > Rollei List >> > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' >> > in the subject field OR by logging into >> www.freelists.org >> > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with >> > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging >> into >> > www.freelists.org >> > - Online, searchable archives are available at >> > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> > >> >> --- >> Rollei List >> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' >> in the subject field OR by logging into >> www.freelists.org >> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging >> into www.freelists.org >> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >> >> >F‰ez"â²Óè²Ûh®‰ez)b²×ëyéb²Û(®®nÇ+‰·š¶º%•è¥ŠËkz«ž²×ëyéb²Û(® >"¶.nÇ+‰·¢žØ^²æãyË_‰é]9ò–ˆ >> >Šx"žÚ0Ãëyéb²Û(®'²æìr¸›y«k¢Y^ŠX¬¶·ª¹ë-~·ž–+-²ŠàÂ+aº{.nÇ+‰·¢žØ^²æãyË_‰é]9ò–ˆ >Šx"žÚ0Ãëyéb²Û(®§–)Þ±æ«r›•æ«r¯zÆ«y«ÚŠV›•æ†Ûiÿü0ÁúÞzX¬¶Ê+ƒö«r¯zÏë¢Y^ŠX¬ > > > > Las últimas noticias sobre el Mundial de Rugby 2007 están en Yahoo! > Deportes. ¡Conocelas! >http://ar.sports.yahoo.com/mundialderugby >--- >Rollei List > >- Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >- Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Online, searchable archives are available at >//www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list