[rollei_list] Re: Rollei 35S, SE

  • From: "Richard Sintchak" <rich815@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:38:58 -0700

Interesting comparisons and opinions there Jerry.

I agree in some ways but think that different cameras and so many of
their own idiosyncrasies and aspects of condition I fear has more to
do with lens performances than the actual formula of the lens.  I have
a Tessar on my Zeiss Ikon Contessa that is a fine performer. The
Tessar on my 35T is even sharper IMO.  But the Tessar on my Certo
Super Sport Dolly:

http://thumbs.photo.net/photo/1894830-sm.jpg

Is sort of soft.  And then the Xenotar (which you seem dissatisfied
with) on my 3.5E3 Rolleiflex is amazingly sharp, sharper for sure than
any of my Tessar lensed cameras.

Richard S.
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On 9/26/07, Jerry Friedman <tinycameraco@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Even Tessars seem to differ. I have used Tessars on Super
> Ikonta cameras, Rollei 35, a Welta and a Rollei T tlr. I
> have always found Tessars good performers but still a
> little bit too soft. But, the Tessar on both of my Rollei T
>  tlr cameras are truly sharp and contrasty, indeed they are
> my favorite lenses.  Just today i went through a ritual i
> go through about twice a year. I put film through my Rollei
> 3.5E(2) Xenotar to prove to myself that it does not perform
> as well as the Tesars on the Rollei T.  I keep imagining
> that perghaps next time it will test better but it never
> does, not at the center and there is no noticed differences
> even in the corners. Very soon I will decide, finally, to
> sell the Xenotar. Resolution is excellent on all the lenses
> but the Tessar just has more bite.
>
> Part of this is, no doubt, a question of assembly. Perhaps
> the Rollei lenses were more carfully centered. You know how
> Welta centered their lens assembly? With a flashlight. Same
> with Franka. Both of these companies used Xenars on their
> best cameras but for a long time Xenars were available for
> far less money, esp. before the war.  This is why one finds
> so many secondary brand cameras with Xenars. But, how good
> were they if they were assembled and centered with a
> flashlight beam?  On the other hand, while i do not seem to
> like the Schneider lenses I have used, I did have a Franka
> Rolfix with 105mm f/3.5 Radionar that performed really
> exceptionally. So well in fact, that I bought other Rolfixs
> in hope of finding another one that good. But this was the
> only one that was so exceptional. Better centering? So, of
> course, i sold it only to continually regret this.
>
> But, before I find myself ensnared in a battle about
> Xenotars, let me also say that i have never particularly
> liked Planars either though resolution is indeed
> exceptional. Indeed, i sold a GX simply because it was too
> expensive to lug around with me when i was not too thrilled
> with its performance. Yes, no doubt I am a troglodite with
> too many thumbs, but we find favorites where we find them.
>
> Do any of you know about Robot's experience with Zeiss and
> Schneider lenses?  Their post war surveillance cameras used
> Schneider lenses and Israeli intelligence, who have
> designed the  most recent Robot gifts, also prefer
> Schneider lenses.  Beats me.
>
> Jerry Friedman
>
>
>
>
> --- Richard Sintchak <rich815@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Although subject to debate (like what is not in
> > photography?) most
> > consider the Xenar and Tessar similar if not pretty much
> > identical.
> >
> > On 9/26/07, eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx <eroustom@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > The S-Xenar is a Tessar with another name?
> > >
> > > E.
> > >
> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: "Richard Sintchak" <rich815@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Yes, quirky they are. I have a 35T which I find gives
> > beautiful
> > > > images, especially for B&W.  Just got a 35S with the
> > Sonnar lens.
> > > > Only a few rolls thru so far so I'm reserving
> > judgement vs. my Contax
> > > > T2 and it's Sonnar lens but my sense is they are
> > certainly not
> > > > identical, or do not seem so.  More later on my 35S.
> > > >
> > > > In the meantime here are some images with my 35T and
> > Tessar lens:
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Rollei35T&w=38698047%40N00
> > > >
> > > > Richard S.
> > > > San Francisco
> > > >
> > > > My Commute Photo Blog
> > > > http://shootingonthefly.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > > > My Flickr Page
> > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rich8155/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/26/07, Roger Wiser <rwiser@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > Jerry, interesting comments. After owning SE, T,
> > 2-S's,
> > > > >  I wished I would have kept the German made model.
> > They
> > > > >  were well made nice picture takers but had their
> > quirks.
> > > > >
> > > > > And  ..... I compleltely agree with your analysis
> > of the ergonomics
> > > > > and  propensity to dent corners, not to mention the
> > use of flash.
> > > > > I had two repaired by Harry Fleenor. In spite of
> > the cost of the
> > > > > cameras and repairs, my cost and  expenses were
> > adequately
> > > > > recovered  when I sold the cameras on eBay. Foreign
> > buyers
> > > > > were seeking then at the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I might add that these little cameras held their
> > value, especially
> > > > > when I indicated that repairs were  by Harry. They
> > are still
> > > > > in demand.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jerry Friedman" <tinycameraco@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:49 AM
> > > > > Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei 35S, SE
> > > > >
> > > > >
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